Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 01:08:07 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Last Week’s Hottest Chatham Online Bulletin Board Topics

1. Hit my fifth deer  (Read 5297 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,23584.0.html

2. Chatham Coalition closing. Will reappear under a different name. (Read 4480 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,21732.0.html

3. Way to raise the bar Chatham Democratic Party  (Read 4424 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,25509.0.html

4. Jeffrey Starkweather vs Deb McManus in Democratic Primary  (Read 3156 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,25652.0.html

5. Sally Kost seeks to rewrite ordinances and regulations. Sally knows best,I guess  (Read 1888 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26003.0.html

6. Please be nice to Jeff Starkweather. He feels under-appreciated. (Read 1498 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26206.0.html

7. Early voting starts Thursday 4/19 and ends 5/5  (Read 1310 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,25993.0.html

8. Why he wants to be called Jeff  (Read 841 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26160.0.html

9. wreck on 15-501  (Read 838 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26202.0.html

10. Look who’s coming to Pittsboro next week  (Read 807 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26163.0.html

11. Chatham Professional Partners to open very soon!  (Read 770 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26024.0.html

12. Jeffrey was at the car show browbeating owners of vehicles that do
not meet modern pollution standards  (Read 662 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26152.0.html

13. Chris Hasbrouck of Pittsboro, NC dies after Tennessee march  (Read 593 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26212.0.html

14. CN – Jordan Lake plan keys environmental debate  (Read 389 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26145.0.html

15. New Kiwanis Park Critters  (Read 292 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,26147.0.html

Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:12:02 -0400
From: Lynn Contant Fass
Subject: Chatham County’s future? on the Line

Chatham County,

Chatham County is facing an environmental crisis; Jordan Lake is impaired and
Fracking is likely to be forced on us and the main discussion on the
chatlist is snakes and recycling.  Oh we have those big time! Chatham County
also has a few commissioners that don’t seem to be able to think for
themselves.  Remember the game, “follow the leader”. Even if that leader is
taking Chatham County over a cliff.    Where is the research and hard facts
to backup their decisions of the draft Cary Land Use Map with Chatham County?
  Many areas of this recent map should be up for an intense review.  Wake
up every body, we are in trouble.    ****

All the area within one mile of the lake was one house per five acres.  But
then, all of a sudden, this became one house per once acre.  What happened
to the idea of protecting Jordan Lake, a drinking water supply?    I also
question why the commissioners created a high density donut hole at Mt.
Pisgah and New Hope Road.  This density is surrounded on three sides by
Markham Planation and Woods of Chatham, large lot subdivisions.  This makes
no sense!****

Mr. Bock says he wants to protect Jordan Lake, this is not going to happen with this map.  ****

Now Fracking:  Are you  aware or prepared for the pipelines that will
follow a fracking pad?  I have been a victim of these pipelines in the
past.  Yes, a natural gas line ran through my farm and Williams Natural gas
pipeline told me they would be in and out of there in a week – I wouldn’t
even know they had been there.  Seven months later, I still had with a 50
foot wide, 12 ft. deep, 1000 ft.+ mud trench through the middle of my horse
farm.  Pastures were non-existent, fencing was destroyed, and to add insult
to injury, Williams (Transco) trucked out my topsoil to sell and use on
another site.  This all happened within 25ft. from my well, my only water
supply to the horses and my home.  They went through a beautiful natural
spring fed stream, didn’t protect it. There was ground rumbling, that would
rattle my windows, the smell of natural gas at times, would fill the air,
just some of the things to expect from a natural gas pipeline companies. They
lied to me then and they will lie to you now. If your land is in the way of
the pipeline, too bad!!  They are coming through with a massive natural gas
pipeline, and it won’t benefit you or your neighbors in any way.  These
pipelines will go out to the highest bidder to run and control, and now
that is China.  Fracking should be banned in NC and all states.  It is
causing major health issues, I can’t eat natural gas, breathe it, nor drink
it, I need pure air and non-toxic water to live.  I know of no other way to
survive, as does the world.  When the earth is off balance, so are we!
 Stop Fracking Now.

Best regards,
Lynn

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:10:50 -0400
From: Lynn Contant Fass
Subject: Does anyone listen!

-Chatham County Residents

> Well, Mr. Bock and his two puppets, have  approved a draft Land Use map with
> Cary that ignores what the people who live in the community have to say and
> weakens the protection of Jordan Lake. The County Chatham Commissioners
> and the Cary Board have not done their homework on this donut hole.  Bock
> continues to say that he wants to ” protect Jordan Lake” and then his
> actions are just the opposite.  Tell us Mr. Bock how is this land use plan
> going to protect the already compromised Jordan Lake and the residents who
> make this our home and farms?  How?

> The New Hope Community residents signed a petition and raised concerns
> about
> a doughnut hole that mysteriously appears in the land use map. This donut
> hole appeared after Mr. Bock took office as Commissioner.  Why is it, that
> high density was given to the Horil/Hodge property when it it is completely
> surrounded by large lots, most of them already built?  Mr. Horil and Mr.
> Hodge (landowners) do not even live in the area, nor in Chatham County, and never have.

> I own a horse farm and the proposed subdivision will likely be 180 new packed-in
> houses, this does not fit.  No zoning/planing regulations in affect.  How
> is this compatible with the farms and the other large lot homes
> in the area?  I say that it is not, in no way shape or form.  And do we
> have protection, the families that live here and pay taxes to Chatham,
> where are our rights?  I recently attended a meeting with the head of the
> Planning Board, Chatham County and the Cary Land Use Board, at both of
> these meetings, this donut hole was erased and the donut hole property
> would go back to the zoning of vldr.  Ok, Mr. Bock, why??  does this donut
> hole appear, after all of these objections from officials and residents, as
> 2 dwellings per acre??   You all are ruining a very scenic peaceful area of
> Chatham and who knows about Jordan Lake’s future protection, (this is only
> a mile from the lake)  and for what?  Why would you put a major strain on
> this area and Jordan Lake?  Cary has said repeatedly that the Town of Cary
> would not do satellite annexation, this land does not perk!  Well, how do
> you explain that decision.    Shame on all of you.  No one is protecting us
> or our rights, our elected official have failed our community.  These 2
> boards, hold meetings, in the early am, when most of us cannot attend, and
> they are not open to the public to speak.  Hold an evening meeting again,
> to discuss this map, and the majority should rule, not you.
>
> This land use plan is going to impact all of us.  Higher taxes, the need to
> build more schools, school buses, additional roads, road repairs, traffic,
> water, emergency vehicles,
> pollution to Jordan Lake, increased crime…the list goes on and on.  All of
> us of Chatham County will be paying big time for this thoughtless,
> ruthless decision.
>
> This group is ruining Chatham County!   Cary council should have stood firm
> with what they originally presented to the residents of Chatham County.
>  You heard many speak against this recent land/use map, and you failed us,
> and didn’t listen.  The backbone of our county is no more, greed has taken
> over.
>
> Lynn

Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:18:01 -0500
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Last Week’s Hottest Bulletin Board Topics

1. WCHL – Walmart Coming To NE Chatham County on 15-501 near Orange County line  (Read 3498 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24679.0.html

2. Injury at Christmas parade  (Read 2524 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24667.0.html

3. when is the christmas parade?  (Read 954 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24600.0.html

4. CC – Carrboro residents oppose proposed Family Dollar  (Read 701 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24681.0.html

5. Sportsman Lanes Bowling in Siler City is closing  (Read 567 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24674.0.html

6. 751 South project near Jordan Lake  (Read 469 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24653.0.html

7. Rick Rosen: A Job Well Done  (Read 239 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24668.0.html

8. Local company creates a video for their Christmas sales!  (Read 224 times)  at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24677.0.html

Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:50:51 -0500
From: Alfred Wyllie
Subject: And yet another cycling accident near Jordan Lake

Having just caught up with the news of the recent hit and run incident in North Chatham County in the Raleigh paper, where comments were abundant on both sides of the issue of cyclists on the roads, it is perhaps time to remind those cycling on the roads around Jordan Lake that certain risks must be accepted in this sport, just as risks have to be accepted when skiing down a mountain.  There are many boat trailers traversing these roads and many drivers have no idea whether their boat trailer tires are on the road or not.  The sun is going down in the afternoons, often creating glares on the windows of motorists when many are cycling and not clearly seen.

While many cyclists are reducing their risks by riding single file on the side of the road, others with apparent reading disabilities are ignoring Stop signs and No Parking signs and/or causing accidents by being an unexpected distraction on the road, like a deer darting across the road.  I couldn’t help but be amused by one commentor who thought those in bike rallys should have a parade permit and a police escort.  While bike rallys offer more to the sport, it is probably only a matter of time until someone in a hurry or who is under the influence of some drug, barrels into one of these bike rally groups.  Of course, it is going to be the fault of the motorist when that happens, but does it really matter if you’re in the ground or laying in traction for months or years following?  Would there even be enough insurance to cover several hurt or killed?

The American Tobacco Trail and many lightly used roads in Chatham County offer much less risks to the cyclist than many of the main roads I have observed cyclists and rally bikers using.  Would you go jogging down the middle of the road?  Would people think you were impaired if you did?  How much slower than normal traffic does one have to go before they endanger themselves or others on the road?

Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:42:44 -0500
From: Beth Kuklinski
Subject: Posting

 Jordan Lake School of the Arts BookFair at Barnes & Noble at Southpoint Saturday, November 19th from 11:00-1:00pm.

Children begin reading at 11:00am and art work will be displayed. Use vouchers to support our one of a kind inclusive school in buying books! A percentage of purchases in store and online through the 23rd using vouchers will be available for JLSA for books.

Vouchers are available in store or on our FaceBook page!

Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:31:35 -0500
From: Lynn Fass
Subject: fracking

I wasn’t going to send this post to the Chatlist, but after thinking about it, I would like all to please read it.

Chatlist,

>>I recently have been ridiculed on the Chatlist, for my outspoken behavior at
>> the meetings.  There are 2 sides to every story.  Mr. Fromkin speaking at a
>> Fracking meeting, was avoiding a question, answering with asking a question, and
>> not acknowledging, those who attended the meetings, as intelligent people.. We
>> all know this was a sales pitch, and what Fromkin Energies wants to do in the
>> state of North Carolina.  Jordan Lake is a huge source of water for the
>> fracking, 1-7,000,000 gallons of water per well, and a 595 toxic chemical
>> cocktail to fracture the geo system of the earth.  It doesn’t take a rocket
>> scientist to realize how much damage will be done to our ecosystem and our water
>> supply.  This is disgraceful, we need clean water to live, all living creatures
>> do, natural gas is greed.
>>>> We are screwing up our environment and it can’t be repaired once these
>> chemicals seep into our earth.  I urge every one to watch ‘GASLAND’, and avoid
>> political bullying.  The final outcome it is not our decision, but it is our
>> right to have ‘freedom of speech’.  We need to be heard.  What about the nuclear
>> power plant in New Hill, so close to Jordan Lake, the earth does move with
>> fracturing.  Then what?  There was a fish kill in Jordan Lake this past summer, why??
>>>>
>>>> I am from NJ, born and raised in the state.  College graduate.  I had a
>> small horse farm in NJ, before moving to Apex, NC.  There was a natural gas
>> pumping station adjoining my farm, and a natural gas easement that ran 1600 feet
>> through my farm.  I was approached, one beautiful October day, that Transco (now
>> Williams Pipeline) needed to check the pipeline, they would be in and out and I
>> would never know they been there.  I fell for that for a few days, then I stood
>> up for my land, horses, family, etc.  It was a nightmare.  I know about
>> fracking, pumping natural gas, when the earth moves less then 25 feet from your
>> home and well, your windows vibrate, sirens going off, the stench of natural in
>> the air, overwhelmed with what Transco had done to my property and our lives.  I
>> took many pictures of this destruction. This story goes on, through an attorney,
>> senators, governors, congressmen, mayors, all the way to DC.  WE STOPPED THEM! 
>> Yes, a small grassroots organization stopped
>>>> STOP) the biggest lobby in DC.   Don’t give up your state for greedy
>> fracking companies.  Please remember where there is a pump or well, there is
>> going to be a pipeline to get it out.  Are you ready for the disruption of so
>> many lives, the health decline and our water source is toxic.  We are in a
>> drought now, and have been for years.  What would it be like to turn on your
>> faucet and no water comes out, or the water is polluted beyond description?  For
>> what, gas greed.  Find another environmentally safe way to do this, FRACKING is
>> not the answer.  Study, research, don’t rush and do it right, there is no
>> turning back. 
>>>>
>>>> Rent ‘GASLAND’ from  Netflix, it is also available on Amazon.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn

Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 13:18:43 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Last Week’s Hottest Chatham Bulletin Board Topics

1. Mike Cross vs Sally Kost over committee appointments (Read 3106 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24002.0.html

2. Pittsboro needs anchor stores to draw enough traffic to support small businesses (Read 2441 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24078.0.html

3. Northeast Park: 2008 bad idea, 2011 great idea & thank you! (Read 1853 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,23898.0.html

4. Chatham County high on list of polluted counties in NC (Read 1810 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24101.0.html

5. Chatham’s Randy Dye takes on Representative Joe Hackney (Read 1613 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,23189.0.html

6. Loud thumping sounds (Read 1134 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24135.0.html

7. Some signs in Pittsboro are more equal than other signs in Pittsboro (Read 1061 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24153.0.html

8. My car was broken into at Jordan Lake today (Read 1005 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24120.0.html

9. List of Stores that have closed so far in Pittsboro – What can we do? (Read 921 times)
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24096.0.html

10. What game is being hunted with firearms now? (Read 738 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24092.0.html

11. New business open in Pittsboro (Read 696 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24138.0.html

12. wreck near Bonlee 10-11-11 (Read 687 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24146.0.html

13. Does sign ordinance hinder potential of business success? What to do? (Read 646 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24095.0.html

14. UNC CH Student Missing after Shakori Hills Festival (Read 539 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24147.0.html

15. Christmas decoration going up at Lowe’s Hardware in Pittsboro (Read 540 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24133.0.html

16. Pittsboro Town Candidates’ Forum, Oct. 11 (Read 527 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24141.0.html

17. White Doe …. (Read 527 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24172.0.html

18. Brian Bock’s decisions will lead to Space Shuttles Crashing (Read 506 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24157.0.html

19. Obituary (Read 503 times) at
http://chatham-county-nc.com/bulletinboard/index.php/topic,24139.0.html

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:14:32 -0400
From: Sandra Gabor
Subject: Eat-in or Take-out Barbecued Chicken at Ebenezer United Methodist Church

For many years Ebenezer United Methodist Church has delivered pre-ordered lunches of ½ a barbecued chicken, coleslaw, buttered boiled potatoes, a roll and homemade dessert. This Fall in addition to delivering plates, we are adding eat-in or take-out service in our Fellowship Hall from 11 A.M. until 2 P.M. on Friday, September 30th.

Our Church is located at 724 Beaver Creek Road, ¾ mile south of the Wilsonville traffic light on US64E, just slightly east of Jordan Lake. Please join us for a great lunch!

For questions or additional information, contact Bob or Sandy Gabor
(919-542-5951).

Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:30:23 -0400
From: lorihawkins
Subject: BBQ and brunswick stew

It’s that time of year when area churches are revving up the cookers and stew pots.  Merritt’s Chapel will be having their Fall BBQ and brunswick stew -all you can eat- this Saturday from 4-  8pm. 

Coleslaw, hushpuppies, rolls, homemade pickles,  tea(with eat in) and homemade desserts will also be served.  Our pork BBQ is slow cooked and made with a prize winning sauce and the brunswick stew is made from a hundred year old recipe that is hard to beat.  Eat in and take out line. 

Adults $9 and kids 12 and under $6.  Quarts of stew and BBQ by the pound are available for $8 while supplies last.

Merritt’s Chapel is located near Jordan Lake. 1090 Farrington Point Rd. Chapel Hill  phone 968-1184