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Peyton Holland is an awesome choice for Chatham County commissioner

November 7th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2016 12:56:45 -0500
From: Angie Farnwell
Subject: Peyton Holland is an awesome choice for Chatham County commissioner

Thanks to Jane Moore for posting that excellent SkillsUSA video with Peyton Holland talking about future jobs and what our kids can do to be in line to get them –

I took the time to view it and I definteily felt it was worth the time. The neat thing about the video is that it’s NOT a campaign video. It’s a video of Peyton Holland doing his job as director of SkillsUSA NC. He is clearly passionate about his job and helping young people find the right place for themselves in the workplace.

And he’s not talking about low-wage unskilled labor. He’s talking about skilled well paying jobs. It’s awesome to hear someone talk about how bright our kids futures could be.

An added bonus is seeing the love and respect Peyton shows for his dad during the video. I hope my children will think that highly of their daddy when they are adults.

As a mom with teenagers, I think Peyton Holland is an awesome choice for Chatham county Commissioner. (My husband agrees) I’m voting for him on Tuesday! If you’re a parent or grandparent I highly recommend that you vote for Peyton Holland as well!


Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:11:33 -0400
From: Jane Moore
Subject: I love Peyton Holland working with youth to find jobs

I love that our indipendent candidate for Chatham County Commissioner, Peyton Holland is working hard with youth in our state to find them jobs.

Peyton works for Skills USA. SkillsUSA is a partnership of students, teachers and industry working together to ensure America has a skilled workforce. SkillsUSA helps each student excel. They provide educational programs, events and competitions that support career and technical education (CTE) in the nation’s classrooms.

Watch his video presentation on “Skills that pay the bills and redefine success” This uplifting message is definitely worth your 16 minutes.

Peyton is the Executive Director of SkillsUSA North Carolina and has been involved in Career and Technical Education for over 15 years. He has devoted his career to helping create partnerships between education, industry and the community as he works to help students develop workplace, personal, and technical skills grounded in academics that will prepare them to be leaders in the workforce.

Having grown up in rural North Carolina, Peyton learned the value of hard work and skill early in life. His father encouraged and taught him what it meant to be a student of life as well as the importance of technical and academic education. Peyton’s mission is to remind people of the value of skilled labor and its necessity.

The path to success is a 4-year degree or is it? By 2020, 10 million jobs will go unfilled because there are not enough people with the skills needed to fill them. For decades, we’ve told a story that places more value on a degree hanging on the wall than the skills needed to build that wall. As a result, we’ve created a “skills gap” that will impact all of us, from the cars we drive to the places we live and work. Respecting skill equally is a critical shift for all of us – whether it is a masters degree recipient or a master craftsman. Empowering students to explore their passions with their hands and mind can transform education and the economic fabric of our country.

Don’t we need someone like this helping the youth of Chatham County, NC?

I love that Peyton can speak to people without need of prepared speeches. You know when you talk to him you are talking to a truly genuine person and not someone who is a politician with canned responses.

I think Peyton will be a great Chatham county commissioner! That’s why I have already voted for him.

And I ask my friends on the Chatham Chatlist to join me in voting for Peyton Holland.

In the middle of all this bipartisan strife wouldn’t you like to do something good with your vote?

Vote for the independent choice! Vote for Peyton Holland and help the youth and jobseekers of Chatham County!


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Once Again, My Take on Using “Real Names” on the Chatham Chatlist

November 7th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2016 07:51:38 -0400
From: Gene
Subject: My Take on Using “Real Names”

In Chatham Chatlist 5691 Jerry Markatos asked “Can we have a Chatham Chatlist policy of rejecting anonymous posts?”

My simple response as Chatham Chatlist administrator? No.

See full response reprinted below.

Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:53:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gene
Subject: My Take on Using “Real Names”

Not much has changed since 2007.

Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:13:10 -0400
From: “Gene”

The discussion about using “real names” on the chatlist [and bulletin board] comes up every several years (usually around election time).

Please don’t underestimate the Chatlist [and bulletin board] member.. Chatlist  [and bulletin board] members are intelligent enough to evaluate the source of an anonymous writing.  They can see it is anonymous.  They can  evaluate its anonymity along with its message, as long as they are permitted, as they should be, to read that message.  And then, once they have done so, it is for them to decide what is “responsible,” what is valuable, and what is truth.

Protecting anonymity is necessary to induce some authors to contribute valuable information to the marketplace of ideas.

Anonymous  authors historically have made contributions to the “progress of mankind”. There are benign reasons that an author may choose to remain anonymous: fear of retaliation or reprisal, the desire to avoid social ostracism, the wish to protect privacy, or the fear that the audience’s biases will distort the meaning of the work.

“Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority” without which public discourse would certainly suffer.

An  author’s decision to remain anonymous is an exercise of autonomy over choice of content, and “an author generally is free to decide whether or not to disclose his or her true identity.” The decision to remain anonymous is an editorial judgment like any other, which makes choosing to omit one’s name no different than choosing to omit an opposing viewpoint.

Speakers may use the shield of anonymity for a variety of purposes, only some of which may be consistent with the public good; at the same time, audiences may not accord anonymous speech  as much value as attributed speech.

“the  First Amendment, as interpreted by the United States Supreme Court, confers upon authors a right to speak anonymously or pseudonymously, even when this right interferes with audiences’ attempts to decode their messages.”

From the Lidsky and Cotter paper (page 75) –

Judge Learned Hand once famously wrote that “the First Amendment . . . presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of  a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection.  To many this is, and always will be, folly; but we have staked upon it our all.” As Judge Hand recognized, democracy rests on our faith in citizens’ ability to decide for themselves where truth lies in public discourse. This same faith underlies the Supreme Court’s recognition of a First Amendment right to speak anonymously.

Chatlist [and bulletin board] Moderator

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Videos: Chatham County Commissioner Candidates at Candidates’ Forum

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 11:29:26 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Videos: Chatham County Commissioner Candidates at Candidates’ Forum

On Tuesday, October 18, there was a candidates’ forum at the Sprott Youth Center in Moncure, NC.

Along with assorted other candidates, the four candidates for Chatham County Commission positions came to speak.

Candidates Karen Howard and Mike Dasher choose to leave early to attend another event that evening. Peyton Holland and Jay Stobbs were able to stay and they got to answer questions.

Peyton Holland speaks to Moncure residentsHere are videos of the candidates from the forum –

District 1 Candidates
Candidate Jay Stobbs speaks and answers questions
Karen Howard speaks

District 2 candidates
Unaffiliated candidate Peyton Holland speaks and answers questions
Mike Dasher reads from a prepared statement

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Operating Hours of Operation Christmas Child Relay Center at Loves Creek Baptist Church in Siler City

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:16:49 -0400
From: PaPaO
Subject: Operation Christmas Child Relay Center Operating Hours

My hope is many of my fellow good Samaritans are packing shoeboxes at Churches, homes, schools or some other locations  to delight and change lives of children around the Globe. Your encouraged to enclose personal note and personal picture, and track the box online. For many children this may be their first toy, whose joy is seen in many of the videos, and also gives children Hope.  Chilly mornings have started warning us that the Holidays are near, and the time is moving quickly. Please pray carefully about this opportunity.

Per chance you are unfamiliar with Operation Christmas Child The Samaritan Purse website has abundant resources: including testimonial videos, packing instruction videos, promotional videos, resources, shipping cost($7) etc. <> / and 1.800.353.5949

Loves Creek Baptist Church is privileged to be a OCC Relay Center again this year. My name is Bill Oldham and am the OCC Relay Center Coordinator this year, phone 919-696-5429. Email . Let me know if I can help in some way.  Loves Creek Website is   which contains operating hours besides Samaritan Purse website.

Loves Creek Baptist Church
1745 E. 11th  Street
Siler City, NC 27344
(Across from BoJangles rt. 64)

Besides outreach to World, Samaritan’s Purse desires time spent center to be a time of fellowship between co-laborers, which I personally look forward to. Please pray for all aspects Operation Christmas Child Mission, and that all develop loving hearts like our creator.

Operating Hours: Nov 14-21
M             9-12 pm,   7-8:30 pm
T              9-12 pm
W             9-12 pm,    7-8:30 pm
Th             9-12 pm
Fri             9-12 pm
SAT           9-12 pm,    5-6:30 pm
Sun           9-12 pm
Mon           9-12pm

Matt. 25:40

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Chatham County Council on Aging is sponsoring a “Grandparents as Partners” program

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 09:48:53 -0400
From: Alan Russo
Subject: Fossils; Our Keys to the Past

The Chatham County Council on Aging is sponsoring a “Grandparents as Partners” program in conjunction with the Chatham Library in Pittsboro.

Kids, 3rd grade and up, grab one or both of your Grandparents and join naturalist Alan Russo on a journey in discovering how fossils can help teach us what the Earth was like in the past, go on a real “Fossil Dig” and take home the fossils you find!

We will discuss:
· The Formation of the Earth
· The Geologic Timeline
· What was North Carolina Like in the Past?
· What is a Paleontologist?
· What is a Fossil?
· How do Fossils Form?
· How do Fossils Help us to Understand  Pre-Historic Earth?

Sign up at the Youth Services Desk or call 919-545-8085 or, 

Alan Russo
Meal Site Manager
Chatham County Council on Aging
Pittsboro, NC 27312
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2016-2017 Flu Shot Information for Chatham County

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 13:13:29 +0000
From: Shannon Godbout
Subject: 2016-2017 Flu Shot Information

With flu season fast-approaching, it is important to get vaccinated. Last season, over 200 North Carolinians died from the flu. The best way to protect yourself, your family, your classmates and your co-workers against the flu is to get the annual flu vaccination. With many local options available, including pharmacies and drug stores, getting vaccinated is more convenient than ever.

It is recommended that everyone over the age of 6 months get a flu vaccine. For people who are high risk, the flu can be especially dangerous. This includes people over 65 years old and those with chronic medical conditions. If you are a caregiver or family member of someone who is high risk, it is also very important that you are vaccinated. If you have ever had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine, have had Guillain-Barr=E9 Syndrome, or are not feeling well, please let your doctor or the person who gives the vaccine know beforehand to determine what is best for you.

Also, remember that personal hygiene habits, such as frequent hand washing with soap, use of alcohol-based hand sanitizers, covering coughs and sneezes with tissue or sleeve, and staying home when ill, help to prevent the spread of the flu.

In response to the changing needs of our community, the Chatham County Public Health Department is focusing its flu vaccination outreach efforts this year on Chatham County residents who are unable to leave their homes to get the flu vaccine.  If you or someone you know is homebound due to medical or physical disabilities and would like to receive the influenza vaccine, please contact Bonnie Dukeman at the Chatham County Public Health Department at 919-742-5641.

In addition to outreach efforts to the homebound, the Chatham County Public Health Department will give flu vaccine at its Siler City clinic location.  Please call 919-742-5641 to schedule your appointment.

Most insurance is accepted, and the cost without insurance is $30.00 for the shot. The CDC does not recommend Flumist this year.

For additional information, please visit<>.

Best regards,

Shannon Kincaide Godbout, MSc
Social Research Associate
Health Promotion and Policy Division
Chatham County Public Health Department

(919) 545-8441

In keeping with the NC Public Records Law, e-mails, including attachments, may be released to others upon request for inspection and copying.

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Karen Howard is clearly showing her disdain for the Chatham County citizens

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 08:39:03 -0400
From: Raymond Gastwaite
Subject: If you say a lie often enough it becomes truth

In the Chatlist from Wednesday this week Mr. Markatos commented on the Commission Meeting discussing zoning and the comments by Karen Howard. His discussion is not correct regarding that Howard is addressing two hecklers from the crowd.

If you listen carefully, this is the statement Howard makes: Even those voices that spoke did not give meaningful input on what was being discussed.

Howard is clearly showing her disdain for the Chatham County citizens who took time to speak for or against zoning, as the meeting was strictly for show anyway.

I would say this continues a trend at the County level, but since we have heard almost nothing from Howard in the past couple months that would not be true.

It is our responsibility to vote, but only if we make informed votes not dictated by one or the other of our national Political Corporations (I could have said Political Parties, but both parties really are corporations that exist solely for their own benefit, not for your benefit). One party wants you to vote the Blue Ballot, the other party wants you to vote whatever color ballot they are using. Do not vote how a Political Corporation tells you to vote. Think, research, and then vote your own ballot. You have a few days left of early voting. Make your vote count.

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You can win a Clyde Jones original painting at Pittsboro Street Fair

October 28th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:59:00 -0400
From: Maggie Frantz
Subject: You can own a Clyde Jones original painting!!
A Clyde Jones original painting will be raffled at the Pittsboro Street Fair Saturday, October 29, at the Chatham County Beekeepers Association tent.  The tickets are $5 each or 3 for $10.  Proceeds will go directly to bee research at NCSU.
Clyde Jones is a folk artist living in Bynum.  He has works in The Smithsonian, on the Great Wall of China, and has had one-artist exhibits in Manhattan as well as the High Museum in Atlanta.  He does not sell his work, only contributes it to charities.  He has a special place in his heart for children and hosts many field trips from schools in the area.  He also visits the Wilmington Art Museum each fall to draw his “critters” for kids to paint and take home.
The most famous Clyde story is that refused to sell a critter to Mikhail Baryshnikov when he visited Clyde’s house.  After later learning  that the ballet dancer had a young son, a critter was sent to him.  A framed thank you letter from Baryshnikov hangs in the Bynum General Store.
Come to the Pittsboro Street Fair Saturday, October 29, from 11-4 to buy a chance to own a Clyde Jones original and support bee research. Bring $$$$$?

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Liberal Virginia Penley muses about her inability to comprehend Peyton Holland’s videos?

October 20th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:02:36 -0400
From: virginia penley
Subject: RE: Election and BOC

Based on the nice videos that Gene and others have posted it is obvious that Mr. Holland is a nice looking, genuine young man who cares for his county.  Of course you could say the same about Mike Dasher, too.

My questions regarding Peyton Holland as a candidate go beyond platitudes.

When he talks about taking Our Chatham Back whose Chatham does he believe it belongs and who is he taking Chatham Back from?

Although this may be unintended this language sounds suspiciously natavist.

I think all of the voters deserve clarity on this plank of his platform.

And when Peyton talks about leadership, what does he mean?

Obviously an elected official cannot feasibly communicate with ALL of the citizens of this county as his literature and speeches imply so at what point would he be comfortable making a decision or a vote?  He implies that the county does not listen to its citizens nor take in enough public input when the reality could not be further from the truth.

Furthermore, if the public feedback he receives is contrary to good public policy what action would he take?

For example, if a majority of the citizens believed that it was ok to pollute our water supply, that the world was flat or the United States never landed on the moon what would he do?  Lead or react?

The impetus for his campaign seems to be twofold: One- the Democratic Party had a contested primary, the incumbent lost, and the GOP failed to file its commissioner candidate for District 2 and Two-the democratic majority of the BOC voted to zone the unzoned parts of the county, which is exactly what they ran on doing as a slate when they won in 2014.

This is democracy in action.

The citizens spoke.

So given that the energy for his campaign essentially came from residual sour grapes from a democratic primary defeat combined with angst over the implementation of a public policy that the board majority campaigned on and won it seems downright reasonable that Mr. Holland tells the voters where he stands on issues and where he may stand on the important issues facing our county and region today and in the future.

Virginia Penley
Vice Chair
Mann’s Chapel

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Free public talk and concert at Jordan-Matthews considers “What Does It Mean to Be Jewish?”

October 20th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:16:44 -0400
From: William Chip Pate
Subject: Free “Fiddler Fall” concert, talk illuminate Jewish culture

JMArts News from the Jordan-Matthews Arts Foundation

Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Free public talk and concert at Jordan-Matthews considers “What Does It Mean to Be Jewish?”

SILER CITY, N.C. — Rabbi Rachel Brown and The Magnolia Klezmer Band will tackle the question, “What Does It Mean to Be Jewish?,” during a free public talk and concert on Nov. 1 at Jordan-Matthews High School.

Scheduled for 7 p.m. in the school media center, the event is sponsored by JMArts, the Jordan-Matthews Arts Foundation, as part of “Fiddler Fall,” a free series leading to Jordan-Matthews’ production of “Fiddler on the Roof” next month.

“We’re thrilled to be performing this legendary Broadway musical and wanted to use the opportunity to help everyone learn more about a culture that’s part of who we all are,” says Rose Pate, president of the arts foundation and producer of the musical. “It’s a chance to learn more about the background for our fall musical. But even if you’re not coming to the show, it will be an interesting and fun evening for everyone.”

“What Does It Mean to Be Jewish?” begins with Rabbi Rachael Brown of Greensboro discussing the faith and what continues to define Jewish identity. She also will provide a brief background on the persecution of Russian Jews at the turn of the 20th century, including their migration to Europe and America — essential themes in “Fiddler on the Roof.”

Rabbi Rachel Brown was ordained by the Ziegler School of Rabbinic Studies at the American Jewish University in Los Angeles and served for 10 years as the spiritual leader of Congregation B’nai Jacob in Phoenixville, Pa., before moving to Greensboro. She has worked extensively with young people throughout her career and the driving force of her rabbinate is making Jewish tradition more accessible.

After a brief intermission with refreshments, The Magnolia Klezmer Band takes center stage for a 40-minute concert of traditional Jewish music.

Based in the Research Triangle, The Magnolia Klezmer Band specializes in Eastern European Jewish music from a region that includes Russia, where “Fiddler on the Roof” is set. The band has been performing for more than two decades at venues ranging from bar mitzvahs and synagogues to clubs, university concert series and music festivals.

Band members scheduled to perform at Jordan-Matthews include Phil Blank on accordion and banjo, Jonathan Breitzer on violin, Ted Erhard on tuba and trombone, Dean Herrington on clarinet, and band leader Elliott Mills on drums and percussion.

JMArts is planning two other free public events this fall based on “Fiddler on the Roof.”

“Prelude to Fiddler: Chagall-Inspired Works by Art III/IV Students” is an exhibition by Jordan-Matthews artists featuring pieces inspired by Marc Chagall, a Russian-French artist whose paintings helped inspire the musical. The exhibition will be held Nov. 15 from 6 to 8 p.m. in the school media center.

“Fiddler and the Refugee Experience” features the world premiere of a student-produced video relating what many local families have experienced to historical events depicted in “Fiddler on the Roof.” A red carpet celebration will be followed by the premiere — with comments by those contributing to the project — and a reception. The date for the premiere, which is part of Jordan-Matthews’ National Hispanic Heritage Month celebration, will be announced.

“Fiddler Fall” events are the prelude to “Fiddler on the Roof” performances at Jordan-Matthews on Thursday, Nov. 17, at 7 p.m.; Friday, Nov. 18, at 7 p.m.; and Saturday, Nov. 19, at 4 p.m. Tickets for the musical are $5 each and now on sale online at More information about the production and other events held this fall are available online at

Rose Pate, president, JMArts, the Jordan-Matthews Arts Foundation

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