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Helped push a motion at Chatham Ag Advisory Board meeting to oppose county-wide zoning

July 12th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 17:51:53 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Re: zoning

I heard a ‘war story’ from Shawn Poe at Rotary lunch a few hours ago that is about to put me down squarely on the NO side of the fence! She promised to write a vignette about her experience and post it on the list.

BTW I helped push a motion at the Ag Advisory Board meeting to oppose county-wide zoning as an official recommendation to the Board of County Commissioners. It passed the vote but was not carried to the Commissioners, not that Karen and Diana would have listened anyway! Jim Crawford does listen. And of course Walter Petty is already a ‘no zoning’ fan.

It is just that I think it is a complex issue and the factors in favor of no zoning  have a better chance of carrying the day if we listen to the concerns of people who see zoning as a protection for their homes and investments therein. They have legitimate fears. They should feel that they are being heard by their neighbors; then they may be more likely to listen to the concerns of those who don’t want zoning. There seem to be several paths to wise development of Chatham County. Zoning is not the only path. So at least slowing to incremental zoning gives us an opportunity to learn and proceed more wisely.

“Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”.

John Dykers

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Health and Wellness Discussion Group meeting in Pittsboro on July 15

July 12th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:53:49 -0400
From: Alan Russo
Subject: Health and Wellness Discussion Group

The Council on Aging will begin hosting a ‘Wellness/Health Discussion Group’ once a month at the Eastern Chatham Senior Center in Pittsboro.

Our next meeting will be Friday, July 15th

The Health Discussion Group will be an informal platform for Chatham County folks over 50 years of age to gather with people of similar interests and discuss everything from healthy lifestyle, juicing, natural cosmetics, health problems, natural therapies, to,  the environment, self sufficiency, meditation and anything else important to living a healthy and productive life.

The group will meet the third Friday of every month at 2pm in the Eastern Chatham Senior Center in Pittsboro.

To sign up or for more information please contact Alan at 919-542-4512 or e-mail at

Alan Russo
Meal Site Manager
Chatham County Council on Aging
Pittsboro, NC 27312
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Storm Season Weather & Safety

July 10th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:32:42 -0400
From: Mystic
Subject: Storm Season Weather & Safety

I would like to recommend to all my friends and neighbors that you consider the small investment in this device:

GHB Solar Hand Crank Emergency Radio AM/FM/NOAA/WB Flashlight Power Bank

Compact Digital AM/FM/NOAA/WB weather emergency radio, Good signal to receive NOAA/WB Weather Radio
Power bank: 1000mAh, 3 ways to charge: micro usb/hand crank/solar
1W flashlight: Floodlight for large area illumination.
Convenience: very compact, weigh light, and easy to carry.
Dimensions: 5″ x 2.4″ x 1.6″ .Weight: less than 0.5 lbs

When the power goes out you will have a rechargeable light and can charge your cellphones. Listen to weather and FM and AM radio.

There are numerous models to choose from This is the one I bought and it costs less than $25.00 delivered on Amazon!

I hope this helps lots of you stay safe and connected during unexpected weather events.


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Another mattress solution

July 10th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:35:37 -0400
From: Rachel Watersong
Subject: Another mattress solution

I saw the recent post about waterbeds and air mattresses and had to chime in!  Our solution was to make a buckwheat hull mattress.  I bought a kit from these folks:  and got the buckwheat hulls locally:  Since we started sleeping on it, our back and neck problems are gone.  And, the whole mattress is compostable, no icky chemicals involved.  The whole project cost me about $400.

Rachel Watersong

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If anyone in Chatham-land is interested in Centering Prayer

July 1st, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:38:13 -0400
From: leela ellis
Subject: Centering Prayer

If anyone in Chatham-land is interested in Centering Prayer, please send me an email

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God Invented Scroll

July 1st, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:33:05 -0400
From: leela ellis
Subject: God Invented Scroll

Hi.  Have you ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls?

God also invented the ability to scroll over things you don’t want to read on the Chatlist.  Use your God-given ability and scroll instead of complaining ….. just sayin’.

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BTW it is waste of time, not waist.

July 1st, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:12:54 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: BTW it is waste of time, not waist.

Dear L. Ingram,

Please don’t complain about Nabooko. Just scroll. It’s not your chatlist; it is ours, and I enjoy Nabooko’s chit chat and observations; usually charming and often insightful. Scroll right past my posts too; no harm, no foul.

John Dykers

P.S. Time is so valuable that, in one sense, we waste it no matter what we do.

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Hating on an 80 year old on OUR Chatlist?

July 1st, 2016 · 1 Comment

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:14:43 -0400
From: Mike P
Subject: Hating on an 80 year old on OUR Chatlist?

L. Ingram –

First, I did not realize that the Chatham Chatlist was YOUR Chatlist. I always thought it was OUR list, run by OUR Chatlist admin, Gene.

Second, it takes a whole lot of something to hate on an 80-year old Chatlist member for posting their impressions of life in their little corner of Chatham County on the Chatham Chatlist.

Third, there is a table of contents on the top of each Chatlist that you can review to determine who you want to read (or not.)

I personally enjoy reading N.A. Booko’s posts and I hope they continue to post here.


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Yes, county-wide zoning will have a major impact on Chatham County landowners!!

July 1st, 2016 · 1 Comment

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:54:04 -0400
From: Raymond Gastwaite
Subject: R1 & R5 zoning regulations

A lot has been said about the upcoming R1 and R5 zoning in Chatham County;  some have said it would not have a major impact on landowners but would protect the County from unconstrained development.

So I read through the 116 pages of zoning regulations on the county website..

First, let us consider the so-called Farming Exemption. To qualify, one must have one of the following: a farm sales tax exemption certificate; a farm property tax listing; a Schedule F from the federal income tax return; an approved forest management plan; or a Farm Identification Number.

Next, these are the definitions for R1 and R5 zoning:

R5 residential zoning is primarily for very low density residential developments along the County’s rivers and streams which are compatible with protecting the water quality of the rivers and streams. New residences need a minimum lot size of two acres.

R1 residential zoning is primarily for low to moderate density residential development within the residential-agricultural areas of the County. Residences need a minimum lot size of one acre.

If a property owner wants to request a change in zoning, there is a five-step procedure to follow, all at the owner’s expense.

1 – A community meeting with all owners of abutting property to present the proposed zoning change

2 – A presentation to the County Appearance Commission

3 – Delivering a zoning change Application to the County Planning Department

4 – Presenting to a hearing of the Commissioners and the County Planning Board, but only after notices have been posted on the properties adjacent streets or highways, meeting notices mailed to adjoining property owners, and notice of the hearing published in the paper.

5 – After this the Commissioners may approve, deny, or direct changes to the application.

If you wish to erect a commercial building, you must follow the Chatham Commercial Design Guidelines.

Homes in R1 and R5 zoning also have a set of rules they must follow. Those rules include distance setbacks, open space requirements, requirements on deck design, and requiring connection to county water systems when available. Plantings should be selected from the Chatham County Design
Guidelines, using xeriscaping for water conservation whenever possible. Lighting needs to follow the County Lighting Ordinance. The Planning Department may demand ‘reasonable fees to cover the administration’ of the program.

The regulation specifically lists what is allowed in R1 and R5 zoning other than housing:

Guest houses

Avocational farming

B&Bs with less than 2 rooms


Day care centers with less than 15 children

Manufactured dwellings

Family care homes

Fire stations

Hunting and fishing clubs

Public parks and recreation areas

Public utility transmission lines


Solar farms with less than 2 acres

Spray irrigation of reclaimed water

Streets and railroad rights-of-way

Home occupations in R1 and R5 are permitted only after receiving a permit from the Zoning Administrator. They must follow rules on the total number of employees and family who may work in the home, restrictions on how much home space you can use, prohibiting outdoor displays of goods or materials, and creating no noise, vibration, glare, fumes, odors, or electrical interference. There must be no additional vehicle traffic.

Penalties for noncompliance are served by the Zoning Administrator. Fines for a first violation are $50 per day. The County may seek destruction of non-conforming buildings, and may put a lien on your property.

These are a lot of restrictions on rural property. They may be exactly appropriate for the urban eastern areas of the County. They constitute a huge change to the existing rural areas west of Highway 87. I am sure that the western areas are mostly unaware of the R1 and R5 zoning impacts, and we might become even more concerned about this action than we are now one once the full implications are more widely known.

Vote in November.

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The Maiming of the Shew, A fundraiser for Siler City’s NC Arts Incubator on Sept 24th

July 1st, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:43:39 -0400
From: zac Scott
Subject: The Maiming of the Shew, A fundraiser for the NC Arts Incubator on Sept 24th!!!

Update your calendar because the date has Changed!!
September 24th, 2016

The Game is Afoot in Siler City! Come help solve the mystery at: The Maiming of the Shrew (a fundraiser to benefit the NC Arts Incubator)
On Saturday, Sept 24th. Cash Bar/Cocktails begin at 6 PM
Dinner and the murder mystery begin at 7 PM
at the Siler City Country Club, 150 Country Club Dr. Siler City, NC 27344

For more information go to:

To order tickets go to:

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