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Proposed Hotel Incentives by Chatham County are backwards

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 14:05:09 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Hotel Incentives

Proposed: “The recommended incentive level would refund the hotel the following percentages of annual property taxes over the first five years before ending in Year 6:”
Year 1 – 90%
Year 2 – 80%
Year 3 – 75%
Year 4 – 75%
Year 5 – 60
Year 6 – 0%

I would suggest that the order of % change be reversed.  Or at least that the rebate only begin with the opening of the hotel.

hotel signIf starting with 0% that would require that the hotelier have adequate capital and be rewarded later for successful operation. Sure, it’s a new market, but venture capital takes a risk for promised reward, and the county will reward the capital risk if they stick it out long enough to be successful.
Understand that with the proposed 90% rebate the first year the hotelier is asking the taxpayer to take more of the risk with them. May be worth it to all of us.

This uncertainty is what risk is. “The hotel would be part of the Russet Run development, a phase of Chatham Park developed by the Eco Group.” “include the hotel as well as a brewery, senior living center, movie theater and grocery store.” How bound together is all this, and does the property tax incentive include the property taxes of any or all of the other entities?
Are Russet Run and Eco Group created so either may avoid the tax liability or abandon the debts of the other?

The concern is if the hotelier is doing this with “Other People’s Money” it is a lot easier to abandon the project and take ‘other people’s money’ and move on to another project. If they have more skin in the game, they will be more likely to stick it out rather than leave us with a white elephant.

John Dykers

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Recommend early treatment with doxycycline for tick bites

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:49:27 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Lyme disease

Tom’s post is spot on, and this is the reason I have recommended early treatment with doxycycline for tick bites. 1. prevent tick bit by wearing light color clothes so you can see the ticks, long sleeves and pants tucked in socks and check frequently and as soon as you come in from any possible exposure. Hope you have a friend to check where you can’t see. If not at least bathe vigorously 2. tick crawling on you, flick away and don’t worry. 3. find a tick attached when you are checking and just came in from exposure, spray with ethyl chloride if you have it, or if not, still remove tick, with magnification if you have it, with pointed tweezers as close to skin as possible and steady gentle pull. Try not to squeeze the body of the tick. 4. If you find tick in the morning after exposure, remove and flip a coin. 5. If tick embedded in flesh at bite site, swollen or red or your access to tick bite limited, get prompt professional help to remove and start on doxycycline.

DEAR DOCTOR, please do not wait for rash or systemic symptoms or positive tests unless there are definite contraindications to treatment with doxy or old tetracycline or alternative antibiotics. I know you can’t make “a diagnosis” at this stage, but the patient with the target rash of Lyme or palmar rash of Rocky Mt Spotted Fever or systemic signs or symptoms of Ehrlichosis is a failure of vigilance. This is one circumstance where “overtreatment” is more appropriate than failure to treat. Erradication and prevention of illness is too easy and the “sick” patient is too sick. I have been burned by Football Coach Jim Tatum dying of RMSF at UNC Hospital because the diagnosis was not definite. Purist would not treat and by the time diagnostic palmar rash appeared he was in organ failure and died. $2-3 of tetracycline and he would not have needed to be even in the hospital.

John R. Dykers, Jr. MD retired.

big dog ticks are really not a problem, but otherwise species identity of tick as carrier or not is too unreliable with current knowledge base. I have been farming here since 1964 and this is how I would treat myself.

Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:54:32 -0400
From: Tom Glendinning <>
Subject: Lyme Disease

The question, Dr Dykers, is whether or not the doctors are Lyme literate enough to offer proper diagnosis and treatment in the proper timeframe.

When reported and treated incidence is 26-29 in 2015, the experience is not broad enough to build a decent database. Besides, its symptoms do not present in a consistent, predictable manner.

The Enzyme Immuno Assay, EIA, and Enzyme Immunoflourescent Assay tests are sometimes inconclusive and time dependent for point of infection. The doubling of testing with the Western Blot is also time of infection dependent.

This diagnostic problem decreases predictable diagnostic accuracy. It’s hard to nail down.

In Pittsboro area, 10 cases (not entire total, just those known by author) the incidence is not epidemic, but still significant in that diagnosis is difficult and unfamiliar to most MD’s.
If the tick bite is missed or ignored and sickness does occur, still start doxycycline or other antibiotic regimen chosen while waiting on test results. The diagnosis is difficult for the most knowledgeable doctor with a high index of suspicion for tick borne illnesses.
Information sources: CDC, VA Medical Center, MD’s, Lyme patients

Tom Glendinning

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Wake Up Wednesday: August 17th at Carolina Brewery in Pittsboro

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:15:20 -0400
From: Lesley Landis
Subject: Wake Up Wednesday: August 17th

The third Wednesday is 2 weeks from today, so that means it’s Wake Up Wednesday!

Join friendly people to network on August 17th. Doors open at 8:00 am at the Carolina Brewery in Pittsboro. Our program runs from 8:30-9:30am.

Admission is $5 and includes a fresh, hot breakfast and introductions to people who can connect you to 12,000 potential customers. We’d like to get to know you so we can send you business.

Cindy Schmidt of the Chatham Historical Museum Committee will be the featured speaker

Grow your business and promote your services at Wake Up Wednesday on August 17th.
Wake Up Wednesday is on Facebook, too.

Lesley L. Landis
Facebook: Lesley Landis Designs
Secretary: Chatham Arts Council
Twitter: LesleyLandis
Instagram: middlenamelove

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Chatham Habitat for Humanity relies on volunteers

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:47:48 -0400
From: Mechelle Thompson

Dear Chatlist Friends,

Chatham Habitat for Humanity relies on volunteers for everything from answering phones to running the cash registers at the ReStore, and yes, swinging hammers to build houses!  We have some specific needs, and you may be the perfect fit! Read on to learn more about the exciting opportunities available.

· Sewing Bee Our Sewing Bee meets every 3rd Wednesday of the month from 8-3 at the Chatham Habitat office in Pittsboro. These are volunteers who love to sew and would like to use this skill to help Chatham Habitat for Humanity build affordable houses. They came together about 2 years ago and started making pillows, aprons, table runners and napkins, baby blankets, baby bibs, and other kinds of  handmade goods. They have fun designing and sewing new items to be sold at our Habitat ReStore, and they bring a pot luck dish for lunch where they enjoy their time of fellowship. We would love to add some new members to this group!

· Landscaping Crew Every house that Habitat builds is finished by this group – they meet for one day and landscape the yards of each house to make sure that the homes look beautiful when the families move in. They choose decorative and functional plants, all of which are specifically designed to meet the needs of the space and the homeowners. We would love to have more people who love to garden get involved with this crew!

· *ReStores * Both of our ReStores are located in Pittsboro, and we rely on volunteers to keep things running smoothly. Volunteers help price donations to be sold, organize and design displays on the sales floor, unloading and moving furniture, helping customers load their cars, and working the cash registers. Volunteering in the ReStore is a great social activity – you’ll make new friends and meet new people every day!

·  Office Volunteers We are always in need of volunteers who are willing to give a few hours per day, at least once or twice/week, to work in the our office alongside staff.  Volunteers are needed to help answer phones and greet clients, take applications from potential homeowners, make phone calls to applicants, data entry, stuff envelopes, and organize closets and supplies. Spanish fluency is a big plus!

·  Construction Work Our construction team works every Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday from 8:30 am until 12:30 pm during the summer months, and 8:30 am until 3:30 pm after Labor Day. We are currently building two Habitat houses in Siler City on North Chatham Avenue. No special skills are needed, just a willingness to learn and work hard!  Must be over sixteen to work on site.

If you are interested in any of these opportunities, or would like to schedule a volunteer work day for your church group or civic organization, contact Mechelle Thompson today!

(919) 542-0794 x228 (  )

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Mt. View Church in Moncure will host a spaghetti plate sale this Friday, August 12

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:59:52 +0000
From: Yolanda Bryant
Subject: Mt View Church Events

Mt View Church Hosts Fundraiser for Youth Programming
Mt. View Church in Moncure will host a spaghetti plate sale this Friday, August 12, beginning at 11:00 am.  Funds raised will be used for church youth programming. Call 919-545-4476 for more information or early orders. Deliveries are available with orders of 5 or more plates. Pick up plates at Mt. View Church, at the corner of Moncure-Pittsboro Rd and Mt.. View Church Rd. 919-542-4569

Mt View Church Celebrates Annual Revival
Mt View AME Zion Church in Moncure will celebrate its annual revival, beginning Sunday, August 14 during the 11:00 morning worship. Lunch will follow. Mt. View is hosting three additional revival evenings, beginning with praise service at 7:00 pm on August 15, 16 and 17. Rev. Stanley Burnette will be the featured speaker throughout revival. Rev. Juanita Cannon is pastor of Mt. View Church. 919-542-4569

Yolanda Bryant
“Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”   ~Harriet Tubman

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Chatham Development Briefing is on August 31

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 11:10:55 -0400
From: “Cindy Poindexter”
Subject: Chatham Development Briefing – August 31

We are just 3 weeks away from the Chatham Development Briefing.

August 31, 2016
7:30am – 10:15am

Governors Club
11000 Governors Drive, Chapel Hill

7:30a – Registration, Networking & Full Breakfast
8:00a – Briefing begins

Consultants, Real estate professionals, economic development experts, county representatives, and others will present the latest information on development for Chatham County.

<> Register to attend here

For more information contact the Chatham Chamber of Commerce by phone or email at 919.742.3333 or 


This year’s Development Briefing is being sponsored by:

Presenting Sponsor


Gold Sponsors

Briar Chapel by Newland Communities
Carolina Meadows Retirement Community
Chatham Park Investors, LLC
Debbie Andleton, Broker/Realtor, Chatham Homes Realty
MHAworks Architecture
Chad Virgil, Sharon Dickens, Kathy Brommage, Lee Shanklin, and John  Todd –
Financial Advisors for Edward Jones

Silver Sponsors

Arauco – North America
Silver Thread Communities –  Cambridge Hills Assisted Living & Twin Rivers
Senior Independent Living
Family Violence & Rape Crisis (FVRC)

Cindy Poindexter, IOM
President & CEO

531 E. Third Street, Siler City, NC  27344
919.742.3333 PH | 919.742.1333 FX

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Lyme Disease discussed on People’s Pharmacy Podcast #996

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:13:36 -0400
From: paultierney
Subject: Lyme Disease/People’s Pharmacy Podcast #996

This is an excellent program describing how difficult it was to get a diagnosis for Lyme disease a few years ago. I hope things have improved since then, but I think this podcast still has important lessons for anyone who may have Lyme disease.

Description of the Podcast:
“People who have had difficulty getting an accurate diagnosis of their ailments may feel that their doctors are not taking them seriously. Perhaps if they had MD degrees themselves, they imagine, the diagnostic process would be more productive.

“This is not always the case, however. Our guest, Neil Spector, MD, is a distinguished researcher and medical oncologist. But when he came down with troubling symptoms, the doctors he consulted told him he was suffering from stress. No one could figure out why his heart was racing and he had so little energy, but the diagnosis of “stress” followed him around. He had to become his own advocate.

“Years later, his doctors discovered that his heart was barely functioning. It had been destroyed by Lyme disease that had been completely overlooked. He learned that unless he got an immediate heart transplant, he could be gone in a heartbeat.
What can we learn from Dr. Neil Spector’s successful struggle to overcome his Lyme disease misdiagnosis?

Detecting Lyme Disease Earlier:
Since listening to Dr. Spector’s description of the difficulty he had with the blood tests to detect the infection, there has been some progress on blood tests that can be used for early detection of Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme disease) infection. A team from George Mason University has just announced its results (
A multi-university team has also developed a multi-antigen test that should be helpful for early diagnosis (Journal of Clinical Microbiology (, Dec., 2015). But for any of these tests to be useful, a doctor needs to suspect Lyme disease and order the test.

This Week’s Guest:
Neil Spector, MD, is the Sandra P. Coates chair in breast cancer research and an associate professor of medicine as well as pharmacology and cancer biology at Duke University Medical Center. He co-directs the experimental therapeutics program for the Duke Cancer Institute, and is a Komen scholar. His book is Gone in a Heartbeat: A Physician’s Search for True Healing. (

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Lyme disease is often misdiagnosed

August 11th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:33:35 -0400
From: “Jeannette Beranger”
Subject: lyme disease

I’m a former New Englander and the incidence of Lyme is much higher where I come from yet it is misdiagnosed just as badly up there as it may be here. One of my husband’s colleagues was misdiagnosed until she landed in the hospital, unable to walk and was beginning to go into heart failure. As a last ditch effort they brought in an infectious disease specialist who identified she was chronically infected with Lyme. After beginning treatment she was stabilized and eventually got back to normal. It was not long before this that I started to become symptomatic with joint pain and I suspected Lyme. I went to 4 doctors and was misdiagnosed for over a year. (By then I had chronic Lyme.) I had one doctor tell me of my red, swollen finger joints that “I wasn’t getting any younger and that it’s probably arthritis.” At one point I ended up in the hospital with heart palpitations (thought it was the beginnings of a heart attack) and it was at this point I hunted down the specialist that helped my husband’s colleague and sure enough, she found I had Lyme. After a month on IV antibiotics, it got under control but some symptoms still persist years later. The crazy thing is when talking about my symptoms at work, I had a number of co-workers that also felt they had something going on but couldn’t get a diagnosis. They all went to the specialist and it turns out a total of 9 of us at work had chronic Lyme.

I think it’s still fairly misunderstood, even by many doctors. Often women are effected differently than men. There are physical, metabolic, and emotional symptoms as all 9 of us experienced. (We compared notes on a regular basis.) Remember, you are your own best advocate. If you really think there is an issue, seek a second, third, fourth, or in my case, a 5th opinion.


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Chatham Chatlist is the closest thing we have to a daily newspaper in Chatham county

August 10th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:42:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Sam White
Subject: We meet every morning for my first cup of coffee


Thank you so very much for all the hard work that you put into producing the Chatham Chatlist.

We meet every morning for my first cup of coffee.  I don’t know where you are, at that point in time, but I’m at my desk, on my computer,  getting the closest thing that we, in Chatham County, have as a daily newspaper.

The Friday sales edition has proved to be valuable for me & many others that I know. The various political editorials are a good sounding board.

Even the multiple ramblings of Goodnitemark share some interesting points of view & many of them are valid. Even with the modern technology that you use, maintaining a daily Chatlist must be an enormous responsibility.

The past week without that modern technology must have been a real pain in the butt. I don’t think that enough people ever say, “Thank You, Gene!” Of those who deride your efforts, I have the following comment: “Intelligence has it’s limits, but stupidity knows no bounds.”


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Beware of contractor con artists

August 10th, 2016 · No Comments

Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2016 08:25:56 -0400
From: deloispopp
Subject: con artists

Thanks to Tom Glendenning for posting regarding his bad experience with a plumber…. I think it is a good service for those on Chatlist to know what contractors to stay away from….  got a few I could add to that list myself.  Once hired a presumably friend whose price was a set amount per hour per man – which was a fair price…. when they started work, two worked and the third just stood there and watched, was outside walking around talking on the phone.  one time he did put a little plaster on a bad part of a ceiling, which, in effect, called for repainting the whole ceiling, as that 1/2 inch defect was barely noticeable, if at all.  when I went to pay his bill included himself in the price which was outrageous as he did not work while on the job… said he was the supervisor… well, I did not need a supervisor, I had built 2 houses and remodeled 8… and knew what I was doing… and he was just in the way… at one time all 3 were in a small bathroom that did need the ceiling painted… I had to tell two to get out and paint another area… got took on that job..

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