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Uncle Grumpy comments on Mr. Kish’s Saturday observations

March 29th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:44:13 -0400
From: Peter Harkins
Subject: Mr. Kish’s Saturday observations (CL #5810)

Mr. Kish,

To quote a small portion of your post (emphasis in the original):, “THERE IS NO CONSENSUS IN SCIENCE.”

You can not possibly believe in the complete absence of any scientific consensus.

How  ’bout the rotund shape of the earth?  Or that its age is somewhat north of 6000 years?  We can disagree about the nature of dark matter, but is there not uniform scientific agreement that the earth revolves ’round good ol’ Sol?

I expect you really didn’t mean to be so over-the-top emphatic and were just saying there does not exist 100% agreement among scientists that humans have had and continue to have an impact on global warming.

And you are right.  It currently only asymptotically approaches 100%.

Warning: anyone with an aversion to numbers, quit and go to the next post 🙂

Mr. Kish, you are also spot on regarding the low concentration of carbon dioxide (in an absolute sense) in the atmosphere;  just now increasing through 400 parts per million.  And that certainly seems small to most folk.

But it is higher than it’s been in something like 800,000 years – ‘course that’s only meaningful if we accept scientific consensus that the earth is something like 4.5 billion years old. 😉   If one’s faith is that of true fundamentalism, then science has no meaning and one can and should stop here.

Darn numbers.  So hard to get one’s head ’round ’em, even when we didn’t have computers to help us understand things.  And used paper and pencil. And thought.

True, 400 ppm doesn’t seem like much, but CO2 is a pretty potent little rascal (even more potent than some UNC guards) regarding its effects on climate. By the way, you knew it takes only about 3 ppm of sulfur dioxide to twist one’s nostrils into knots?  Now that’s potent.

Perspective: doesn’t take much of some other material to affect life.  Much much lower concentrations of lead do serious, permanent damage to children.  Much much lower doses of many poisons render us impervious to future taxes, federal or state.  And it only takes one sperm out of millions …  lots of stuff has big effects in small numbers.

For me – born before the war (ask not which), and many of my acquaintances, given we only have a decade or so left to pay those taxes (even less maybe given the tensions emanating from DC and Raleigh these days), climate change itself, much less its underlying causes, are not very personally relevant.

But those born after us oldies loosened the education system in the ’60s and ’70s – you folk will probably live long enough to experience what an additional degree or two or three of average temperature (F or C) increase will mean – and certainly your children will.

Ironic that the coming rise was enhanced just today by yet another thoughtful executive order signed our fearless (feckless?) leader in Washington.

Mr. Kish, I ‘spect if you are young enough, you will certainly live to bask in the warmth now on its inevitable way.  Allow me a recommendation – I suggest avoiding ocean front property, except perhaps cliff side, norther California or New England.  And perhaps invest in Carrier (a DC favorite) – the heat wave in Europe some years back did result in almost 13,000 (low estimate – 70,000 high) excess deaths.  Of course  it hasn’t been quite as bad since.  And that’s Europe.  😉

Perhaps we could all consider humor to be a better “h”  characteristic in our posts.  “Hate” tends to turn off readers – regardless of which side is tossing the bombs.

And I have to believe your God, mentioned in your final paragraph, smiles more than frowns.  My faith comes down on the smile side.

Uncle Grumpy

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Video clips from new ChathamNC Agriculture & Convention Center Grand Opening

March 29th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:16:41 -0400
From: Gene Galin
Subject: Video clips from new Chatham Ag Center Grand Opening

Walter Petty at Ag Center

I had a chance to run out to the new Chatham County Agricultural & Convention center outside Pittsboro for the grand opening on Saturday morning.

Below are some video clips from the morning’s ribbon cutting ceremony. More to come tomorrow

Former county commissioner Mike Cross talks about new Chatham Ag Center –

Sheriff’s deputy sings Star Spangled Banner at Chatham Ag Center Grand opening –

Chatham County Extension Director Sam Groce speaks at Ag Center grand opening –

I’ve posted several dozen photos from the event on the Chatham Journal’s facebook page at

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Cello/piano duo to return for another Strobilus performance on April 2

March 29th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 09:29:49 -0400
From: Becky Peer
Subject: Cello/piano duo to return for another Strobilus performance on April 2

Debbie Davis, cello, and Deborah Coclanis, piano, return to the Strobilus series with a recital of works in various styles on April 2, 3:00 PM at Chapel in the Pines. The works will range from Luigi Boccherini’s classical Sonata No. 5 in F Major to Astor Piazzolla’s modern “Le Grande Tango.”  The program will conclude with Francis Poulenc’s 1946 masterwork, Sonata for cello and piano.

Located at 314 Great Ridge Parkway in the northeast corner of Chatham County, Chapel in the Pines Presbyterian Church welcomes everyone and the facility is fully ADA accessible. All events are open to the public and are free with a suggested donation to support the performers and cover overhead costs. More information about Strobilus Arts and all the events can be found at the series website,

Chapel in the Pines has a truss and beam hardwood interior with expansive views of the surrounding pine forests. Strobilus Arts was conceived to take advantage of this artful setting. The music series takes its name from the botanical term for the pinecone, which derives from the Greek

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Council on Aging Extends Registration Deadline for Chatham County Senior Games and Silver Arts until 3/30

March 29th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:23:45 -0400
From: “Lindsay Hickling”
Subject: Council on Aging Extends Registration Deadline for Chatham County Senior Games and Silver Arts: Last Call

Council on Aging Extends Registration Deadline for Chatham County Senior Games and Silver Arts: Last Call

PITTSBORO – As coordinator of Chatham’s Senior Games and SilverArts, the Council on Aging is extending the registration by a couple of days. “It’s last call for people aged 50 and better as we say in Senior Games’ lingo. Register by the end of this Thursday, March 30th and enjoy all of the fun and friendly competition that comes with participation in Senior Games and SilverArts,” says Lindsay Hickling of the Council.

Chatham County Senior Games is sanctioned by North Carolina Senior Games, Inc. to serve as an official qualifying site for State Finals for 2017. Events will be held in various locations throughout the county April 19th through May 5th. Event sites include: Carolina Meadows, Carolina Preserve, Central Rec Center, Duke Center for Living at Fearrington, Fearrington Swim and Croquet Club, Paul Braxton Gym, Eastern Chatham Senior Center, Pittsboro (McClenahan) Pickleball/Tennis Courts, Siler City Country Club, Jordan Matthews High School and the Thomas Brooks Park.

Sporting events include archery, basketball shoot, bocce, bowling, cornhole, croquet, cycling, football throw, one-mile fun walk, golf, horseshoes, pickleball, softball throw, swimming, tennis, track and field events. The Council is adding some more week-end competition to help those working during the week.

SilverArts cover four categories. Heritage Arts includes basket weaving, crocheting, jewelry, knitting, needlework, pottery, quilting, stained glass, tole/decorative painting, weaving, woodcarving, woodturning and woodworking. Those interested in Literary Arts can submit essays, life experiences, poems and short stories, while performing arts includes comedy/drama, dance, line dance, instrumental and vocal.  The fourth category is Visual Arts: acrylics, drawing, mixed media, oils, pastels, photography, sculpture, and watercolor.

Those interested in registering should contact Lindsay Hickling, 919-542-4512, ext. 228 or  by the end of this Thursday, March 30th.

You can pick up an application at the following locations: Eastern Chatham Senior Center, Western Chatham Senior Center, Chatham County Parks and Recreation, Duke Center for Living at Fearrington and Carolina Meadows. You can also get the application on the Council’s website at

“I hope all of you aged 50 and better will join me in participating in Senior Games and SilverArts. We want Chatham to show the state that we are all about fun, fellowship and friendly competition,” noted Dennis Streets, Council director and Senior Games participant. “Once you experience the spirit of these activities, you will be as hooked as I am.”

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Thank You, Celebration of Educators Sponsors!

March 28th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:01:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Communities In Schools Chatham County
Subject: Thank You, Celebration of Educators Sponsors!

We Love Our Sponsors! “Let us remember: One book, one pen, one child, and one teacher can change the world” ~ Malala Yousafzi
Purchase Fundraiser Dinner & Raffle Tickets Here!
Without the generous support of our 60 plus sponsors CIS CC’s Celebration of Educators fundraiser event wouldn’t be possible!
Because of their donations, we’re able to host this gala event on April 23 in downtown Siler City.
Join us in supporting our work in Chatham County Schools and in celebrating the 2017 Chatham County Teachers of the Year!
Valedictorian & Salutatorian Sponsors
Absolute Construction & Development, LLC Angelina’s Kitchen CRA, Associates Edward Jones, Chad Virgil Fein Cabinetry First Bank  Holmes Oil Company, Inc. dba Cruizers Jenny McLaurin Marc Jacobson Toyota MJ Evans Homes N. Rouse Willson, III, DDS Neil & Deborah Pedersen Phoenix Fund of the Triangle Community Foundation Realty World, Carolina Properties Honors Graduate & Scholar Sponsors Anza Mailing Systems, Inc. Broedell Masonry Brummitt-Yale Family Carolina Farm Credit Central Electric Membership Corp. Chatham Heating & Air Conditioning Cleaning Authority Coldwell Banker HPW, Elizabeth Anderson Broker Vince & Bunnie Collura Corinth AME Zion Church Countryside Auctioneers & Realty Cox Brothers Dickerson Hearth & Patio Engineering Tech Associates, P.A. The Food Fairy Honors Graduate & Scholar Sponsors Grapevine Realty Services Jason H. Pope, Electrical Contractors, LLC John’s Italian Pizza Restaurant Koonce Wooten & Haywood, LLP Louise Barnum, Partner Weaver Street Realty Lynn Hayes Properties McB Group Insurance Services The Mod Nancy Tanguay Nelson Tire & Automotive New Horizons Downtown North Carolina Signs Oakleaf Paul Mitchum, DDS Pittsboro Auto Care, Inc. Pittsboro Dental Associates Pittsboro Outdoor Power Equipment
Honors Graduate & Scholar  Sponsors
Roberson Construction PTY LTD Select Security & Audio 7 Dance Centre Sherri Murrell Small World Therapy Steve Cooper Enterprises Sunrise Dental Super B Mechanical Superior Overhead Doors Tammy R. Severt, Specialist in Orthodontics  Tick Warriors Tu Nguyen Insulation Van 2 Auto Sales, Inc. West Chatham NAACP Wilkinson Supply Company Wilson Brothers
Purchase Fundraiser Dinner & Raffle Tickets Here!
Dinner ticket sales end Friday, April 14!
Surrounding students with a community of support, by empowering them to stay in school and achieve in life.
Communities In Schools Chatham County | 208 North Chatham Ave, Siler City, NC 27344

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PittsboroMatters hate group was labeled as such because of the hate group’s actions and public statements

March 27th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 12:44:39 -0400
From: Taylor Kish
Subject: There is no room in my heart for hate

My earlier Chatham Chatlist post (#5780) was to bring it to Chatlister’s attention county employees are hiding behind a “committee” of “residents” whose purpose is to filter everything that MAY be deemed to affect “the climate”.  How is that hate?  How is that anything but fact?

Committee members declare themselves on Facebook pages and Linked-In profiles.  This is fact.

The PittsboroMatters hate group was labeled as such in this very Chatlist by OTHERS BECAUSE of the hate group’s actions and public statements, associations with other publicly identified haters (e.g. Mr. Starkweather; many Chathamites think Mr. Starkweather oozes hate).  Five members of the Chatham County Climate Change Advisory Committee were proud to announce their memberships in this hate group previously.  (See Chatlist post 11/26/2013) This is fact.

Yet people like Brad Page want to accuse ME of all the nonsense haunting the dark crevices of their own minds and psyches.  Brad brings up the subject of hate again and again.  His own Zen teachings explain his cravings and primitive attachments yet Brad blames me for his shortcomings.

No amount of scientific evidence will make a difference to the Brads and MaryPhyllises who are deeply committed to fantasy and delusion.  THERE IS NO CONSENSUS IN SCIENCE.  True scientists will not demand an absolute belief in anything that cannot be proven.   And man-made climate change is far from proven.  [“But WHAT IF someday (when we are all dead anyway) the temperature is three degrees different than today?”  Should we all stop thriving today to save the planet?”]  What absolute drivel.


Yet, Chatham County has a committee filled with democrat activists willing to stop those evil fossil fuel polluters in their tracks in Chatham County.  [“But the people told us they want us to save the earth from climate change.  We are only doing what the people demand.”]  No matter the “advisory” committee is made up of democrat activists.

We stand a better chance of being run over by a drunk “refugee” or a radical jihadi than dying of man-made climate change.  Yet there are Chathamites saying we should hunker down and stop using fossil fuels so humans don’t become extinct someday if _______________.

Carbon dioxide is a TINY TINY portion of the air we breathe and plants NEED carbon dioxide to live and feed us.  For God’s sake.  One active volcano spews more than all humans combined.  Think of all the fires burning on the earth right now.  If we ALL exhale together and we fire up every motor we own, we will not affect the CO2 levels on this earth.

The Brad Pages of this Chatlist are retired.  They have nothing to lose. He lives on tax exempt land.  Receives a government check that is “guaranteed” for the rest of his life.  The Brads and MaryPhyllisses don’t care if YOUR children can’t find a job.

This silly advisory committee gives cover to county bureaucrats to take and wield more power and spend more money foolishly.  [“Let’s put wind turbines on all our county buildings!!  Wee!  What fun!!  Don’t we feel better?  We saved the earth?”]

My Heavenly Father (God) is more powerful than all the Brads and MaryPhyllisses and county bureaucrats put together.  I’d rather bet on God’s plans for humanity than spend our grandchildren’s inheritance on the outside chance the weather may change.

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Ronda Stubbs named Chatham Chamber of Commerce Ambassador of the Quarter

March 27th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:08:48 -0400
From: “Cindy Poindexter”
Subject: RONDA STUBBS names Chamber Ambassador of the Year

Ronda Stubbs, Administrative Assistant for Cambridge Hills Assisted Living, named Chamber Ambassador of the Quarter, Qtr 1, 2017

Ronda Stubbs has been named the Chamber Ambassador of the quarter for the third time now. She has done an outstanding job as an Ambassador since 2014 and is an amazing person overall. She has never.ever.met a stranger. Ronda has a very welcoming nature and makes everyone feel comfortable. She is highly respected in the community and considered a tremendous asset by her employer. The Chatham Chamber of Commerce is honored to have Ronda serve as a Chamber Ambassador and a goodwill arm of the Chamber.

A little about Ronda… Ronda loves being a mother. She has one son, Ethan. She enjoys reading, travel, yard work, family history, scrapbooking, cross-stitching, and time with family and friends. The beach is her home away from home.

Ronda works as an Administrative Assistant for Cambridge Hills Assisted Living, A Silver Thread Community in Pittsboro.    Her past includes years of experience in the hospitality business.

Cindy Poindexter, IOM
President & CEO

531 E. Third Street, Siler City, NC  27344
919.742.3333 PH | 919.742.1333 FX

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Fearrington Open Studio Tour coming April 1st and 2nd

March 27th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:14:27 -0400
From: “Forrest Greenslade”
Subject: Spring Art

Good afternoon art-lovers:

Spring is here and art is in bloom. Come visit our Organic Forrestry Studio and Gallery, Forrest Dweller Sculpture Garden and The Artist’s Garret at Fearrington Village. We will be in the AS@FV Open Studio Tour on April 1st and 2nd. Details:

We hope to see you here,


Forrest C. Greenslade. PhD, DTM
Open to anything — Skeptical of everything
Artist, Writer, Speaker

The Artist’s Garret:

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Tree fun for kids and families on March 28 at Chatham Community Library

March 27th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:14:03 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Margaret Tiano
Subject: Big Tree Ambassadors, Tue (3/28), 4 PM Chatham Community Library

Tree fun for kids and families this Tuesday (3/28) at 4 PM.  Meet at Chatham Community Library for a spring exploration walk around the campus trail for about an hour.  Dress for the weather and wear sturdy shoes for going off trail.  We will have a program, rain or shine.

This after school program is geared to elementary school students, with all ages welcome.

March is when we celebrate North Carolina Arbor Day and April for National Arbor Day.

Margaret Tiano
Outreach Volunteer
Grand Trees of Chatham – Tell us about your favorite tree!

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New Chatham Ag Center opening and activities and displays were terrific

March 27th, 2017 · No Comments

Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:25:22 -0400
From: “John R Dykers”
Subject: Ag Bldg Opening

Debbie described the opening beautifully Saturday and contributed to it greatly.

The opening and activities and displays were terrific and my smoked brisket sandwich delicious.

The Crevecoeur chicken was impressive and Mark Reif from Mountaire was there with his grandson taking pictures as we were treated with a closeup look. Crevecoeur is French for ‘broken hearted’! Came not far from the origins of our Charolais cattle.

Great music from the jazz band! When they stopped it was like a reverse flash mob; several left while other could not stop playing; they were having such fun and making great music and many of us were still enjoying them and did not want them to stop.

Sam Groce did such a fine presentation and he DID STOP! Very graciously.

John Dykers

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