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Written by Gene Galin   
Wednesday, 17 June 2009

This digest contains the following messages:

  1. Re: proposal to raise fees for gym use  
         by: Kathie Russell
  2. Perhaps that is what we need in North Carolina  
         by: John Grimes
  3. carpenter,plumber,electrician  
         by: Teresa Garrett
  4. great things at our farmers' markets!  
         by: Debbie Roos
  5. Back to the Dark Ages  
         by: stephanie talbott
  6. 15-501 driving  
         by: Nancy Reichle
  7. VBS at Rock Spring Baptist Church  
         by: Lisa Thomas
  8. Let's Celebrate @ the Community Gathering-June 20th- 10am-1pm  
  9. The poor driving in this STATE??  
         by: Meg Miller
  10. Chatham Social Health Council 1st Annual Bake Sale & Rummage Sale  
         by: Stacy Duck
  11. This week's story time at Pittsboro Toys: Caroline Resnick  
         by: Pittsboro Toys
  12. Trey, Jimmy Pharr Speech clarification  
         by: Jimmy & Ida Pharr
  13. Goat's Milk & Poison Ivy  
  14. The PAF Gallery welcomes Julia Kennedy Exhibit  
         by: Tommy and Cindy Edwards
  15. Indian Giver  
  16. Staining recommendations?  
         by: Joe Smith
  17. Stump Grinder Rental?  
         by: Joe Smith
  18. Rob, the Door Doctor gets an A  
         by: Tori M.
  19. =?us-ascii?Q?_=22Shaggin'_Into_Summer_with_CASA=2C_ENO_and_BASS=22?=  
         by: Pat Johnson
  20. need help with mixing radio intro  
         by: Lynn Hayes
  21. Driving on 15-501  
         by: Lynn Hayes

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:12:24 -0400
From: "Kathie Russell"
Subject: Re: proposal to raise fees for gym use

Thank you for your email.  We will give careful consideration, however, in the past our fees have not been sufficient to cover our costs for such uses.  At this time, we have to make sure that usage fees cover costs.  We are not seeking to profit.

Kathie L. Russell
Chatham County Board of Education

  From: Newt and Karen Heilman []
To:, 'David F Moody' [],, 'Flint OBrien' [], 'David Hamm' [],,,
Cc: 'Chatham Chatlist' []
Sent: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:05:18 -0400
Subject: proposal to raise fees for gym use

Dear Mr. Logan, Mr. Moody, and School Board members:  

I am a parent of two daughters at Perry Harrison School. I have been the PTSA President there for three years as well as the girls' softball, basketball, and soccer coach for the last 6 years. I was a teacher and coach in Chatham County Schools from 1993-2000. Last year, I started a travel basketball team for girls ages 9-10 in the Pittsboro and North Chatham area. There are not a lot of local opportunities for young girls to play competitive basketball all year round and I wanted to start an affordable program in our area. With the fee increase you propose for using the gym at Perry Harrison School, my program will be forced to end. It is outrageous the amount of money the county expects community organizations to pay for the use of their facilities.  

My players' families paid for uniforms, tournaments, travel and lodging, and of course, gym use fees. This past year CC Schools charged us $8.00 an hour. Luckily, two teachers' daughters were on the team and supervised our practices for free. We hold two 2-hour practices a week. Practice runs August through October and again in the spring from March through June. This past year we would have paid $896 for 112 hours of gym use. This year that fee will jump to $2800. I can't ask the families of my players to pay this in addition to the other costs incurred by travel basketball.  

I started this program with a number of goals -- we not only focus on the fundamentals of basketball but on teamwork, self-esteem, and work ethic. I hoped to prepare these girls for middle school and high school basketball. Some have aspirations to play in college. This team was a great opportunity not only to improve on their basketball skills but to help prepare them for life. It is unfortunate that I will have to tell these girls that we can no longer have a team because the school system has made it unaffordable.  

Please reconsider such a large increase in fees for facilities usage. I understand that times are tough, but you are doing a great disservice to the Chatham County community.  

Thank you.  

Karen Heilman      

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:24:21 -0400
From: "John Grimes"
Subject: Perhaps that is what we need in North Carolina

People had better not drive in Germany less than a  minimum speed limit in
the left hand lane.If they do,they get a traffic ticket for driving too
slow.Perhaps that is what we need in North Carolina.They also incur the
displeasure of the German auto driver who will definitely tailgate and flash
their headlights until the discourteous driver moves over.
 In Europe it is the slower driver who is discourteous,negligent and
unlawful when driving in the outside lane and is holding up drivers driving
the speed limit and wanting to pass.

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:47:45 -0400
From: Teresa Garrett
Subject: carpenter,plumber,electrician

Hey Beth,
In response to your needs, I suggest you give my husband, Danny Grasty,
a call.  He can take care of everything on your list.  His cell # is

--------------------  4  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:54:57 -0400
From: Debbie Roos
Subject: great things at our farmers' markets!

Hi everyone,

Now is a great time to visit one of Chatham County's farmers' markets. The sweet corn is starting to come in, and we have blueberries, peaches, fresh goat cheese, great vegetables, yummy baked goods, plants, wine, and so much more. Make sure and stop by one of Chatham's farmers' markets this week!

Fearrington Farmers' Market from 4:00 til early evening at Fearrington Village

Pittsboro Farmers' Market from 3:30-6:30 pm at the county fairgrounds in Pittsboro

Siler City Farmers' Market from 10:00 am-1:00 pm in downtown Siler City

Carolina Brewery Farmers' Market from 8:00 am-noon at Carolina Brewery off of 15/501 in Pittsboro

For Garden's Sake Farmers' Market from 1:30-5:30 pm at For Garden's Sake Nursery on Hwy 751 on the Chatham/Durham county line

Check out Cooperative Extension's Growing Small Farms website at for more information about vendors, products, directions, etc.

Have a great week,

Debbie Roos
Agricultural Extension Agent
Chatham County Center
North Carolina Cooperative Extension

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: stephanie talbott
Subject: Back to the Dark Ages

I bought the HDTV, and converter box for the other TV.
For months, both TVs pick up stations (air and HD) with indoor rabbit ear antennas (specified for HD use).  The signal broke up a lot, but at least there was some accessible programming in good weather, no wind, no rain, no leaves on trees, etc.  Now that air TV signal ceased, and converted to digital, I get nothing…. “auto scan† in programming the TVs picks up nothing… not even PBS.  I’m reluctant to run around purchasing roof top antennas, (that are also useless in wind, rain, summer leaves, etc) or getting on some unaffordable satellite service without hearing from others what is working, what is not, and at what price.  I do not even watch much TV, since so much of my time is spent in the Internet-foot-path [dial-up].  So I do not believe satellite service is a good value for me, UNLESS, you all are finding a bundled service of satellite for TV AND high-speed Internet???? (and at what cost???)
        Please do share if you have some workable, budget-minded solutions… perhaps it will help others.  


--------------------  6  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:00:45 -0400
From: "Nancy Reichle"
Subject: 15-501 driving

For those of you insisting that everyone move into the right lane when
other drivers are tailgating you, please remember that to turn left, you
have to be in the left lane.  It is not possible to wait until the last
minute to prepare for a left turn because that creates reckless lane
switching.  I and many others turn left every day at the Northwood light
(heading South) to go to work at the Carolina Living and Learning
Center.  Thanks.

Nancy C. Reichle, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Director, Carolina Living and Learning Center
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

(919) 542-1910 (office)
(919) 218-2735 (cell)

--------------------  7  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:49:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lisa Thomas
Subject: VBS at Rock Spring Baptist Church

Vacation Bible School: “SonRock Kids Camp† 

** All children ages 3-12** - Join us at Rock Spring Baptist Church this Saturday, June 20 th from 9:00 - 4:00 pm

* Bible Study * Music * Games * Crafts * Lunch * Snacks * Water Slide - (bring towel & swim suits)

Rock Spring Baptist Church (located off of 15-501)

29 Rock Springs Church Road

Pittsboro, NC 27312 (919)542-3435

Contact Larry Robinson at for VBS information & registration.

For more information about Rock Spring Baptist Church visit the church website

How great is the love the father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! ~1 John 3:1~

--------------------  8  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:55:54 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Let's Celebrate @ the Community Gathering-June 20th- 10am-1pm

Chatham County is an awesome place to live. That's why on Saturday morning, June 20th, from 10am until 1 pm you are invited to join with people from across Chatham County in a Community Gathering to celebrate our recent accomplishments, explore how we can build community, family and faith to face future challenges together, and share stories, food, and music.

The event will be held at Roca Fuerte Church located at 1365 NC Hwy 902  in Pittsboro. Bring your favorite dessert dish! Everything else will be provided. The public is invited. Bring a friend.

For more information contact: Margie Ellison at 919-837-8738, Nancy Harman at 919-548-0667, Roxana Lopez at 919-542-4026.

--------------------  9  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Meg Miller
Subject: The poor driving in this STATE??

The poor driving in this STATE??  What a generalization you make.  I really am offended every time one of you folks from somewhere else makes disparaging comments about our government, schools, driving, talking or what have you.  You chose to come here, be gracious and learn a little southern manners.  You don't insult the host!


--------------------  10  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:14:39 -0400
From: Stacy Duck
Subject: Chatham Social Health Council 1st Annual Bake Sale & Rummage Sale
 - Donations needed

The Chatham Social Health Council will hold their 1st Annual Bake Sale &
Rummage Sale July 25th 8am-2pm. We are asking for donations from the
community. Please clean out you attics and garages and donate unneeded
items to a GREAT cause fighting the spread of HIV and STDs. You can drop
off items at the Council office 401B North Ivey Ave, Siler City (behind
Dr. Dykers building across from the old hospital) or we will come pick
the items up. Please contact Stacy or Lisa at 919-742-3762. Thank you
for your support!

--------------------  11  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:39:17 -0400
From: Pittsboro Toys
Subject: This week's story time at Pittsboro Toys: Caroline Resnick

By special request, Caroline Resnick, who we know has many young fans, will
be reading this Thursday at 4 pm at Pittsboro Toys. This is part of our
running series of story times every Thursday at 4. Please stop by!

We are at 89 C Hillsboro St. Call 542-4885 with any questions

--------------------  12  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:59:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jimmy & Ida Pharr
Subject: Trey, Jimmy Pharr Speech clarification

       I just read the Bullentin Board comments about the talk I gave on my son Trey, for the first time, never having been there before.  I wish to clear up a contentious point, and wish to do so here. (I registered on BB but am waiting approval).
      Trey's 69 IQ rating was NOT as a result of his computer answer about "the chicken or the egg".  The teacher at Lennon Baker Children's Hospital School, actually listened to Trey's explanation and applauded him for it.   The IQ test in question was administered at UNC by a separate group.   Ida & I watched thru a window and actually thought he was doing very well.   It was the shockingly low results from THESE tests that the bureaucrats made their ridiculous determinations and negative predictions, which, after the shock, we fought.  They reluctantly agreed to retest in 6 months & came up with the same results, which we again fought. 
      All these "experts" were the ones trying to keep Trey out of Pittsboro Primary and predicting doom and gloom for him, not the school itself.
      It was also these same "professionals" mostly from UNC, who declared that Trey must also be autistic after we defended him by saying he could read the Genesis creation story in the Bible at 3 and 1/2 years old and could say the alphabet, both of which we had taught him.
      I want to clear up that point of contention that has led to a debate on the Bulletin Board.  I WILL ALSO ADD THAT YEARS LATER, TREY TOOK AN ONLINE IQ TEST AND SCORED 127.
      Futher I'd like to apologize for some other confusion.   That was my first public telling of Trey's story (and of mine).   While most people were extremely kind and generous to me afterword - and I do thank you all so much -   I was very nervous, wasted too much time in the beginning, and thought I did poorly and ran out of time.  Because of my poor time management, I wasn't able to address the political ramifications except in a handout I distributed.   This has led to debate on the bullentin board that I take full responsible for. 
      Like most proud parents, Ida and I are extremely proud of Trey acomplishments, especially given the negative predictions of those bureaucrats.    It is also a fact that people proudly defend their political ideaology when it is perceived to be under attack.   Maturity and reason usually go out the window in our blind defense of those principles.
     I'll just say that those groups and individuals wanted one direction for Trey and Trey's parents wanted another.  Thanks to Mary Cooper, Trey's kindergarden teacher and others at Pittsboro Primary, we were finally allowed our choice to mainstream Trey at the local elementary school.
     I will also add that we aggressively sought out help for our son's needs that we could not meet, such as medical, physical, emotional, and spiritual from our church, UNC and Duke hospitals, and CCDC - the Paul Braxton special needs center in Siler City.  So we are not opposed to public agencies, but in all these cases, we initiated and approved all actions, and saw the good sense in what was recommended and in what was done.
     And I will gladly open myself up to anyone who wishes to discuss this with me, including my critics (but not to my wife or my son), by encouraging you to call, email or visit me.  
     It never dawned on me that I would be charged by someone as "exploiting my son for political purposes".   Believe me, I agonized, sweated, fretted, worried, over this to the point of almost cancelling.   But Trey's inspiring life story could help many other people if handled correctly.   That motivation trumped my personal "feet of clay", and any unintended negative feedback.   My only selfish motive was that I thought it might also help Trey in his current job seach since graduating college, and I even forgot to put that plug in for him !!!!
      I also apologize for the length of this.   Thank you.

Jimmy Pharr  919-542-5099 160 Durham Eubanks Rd.   Pittsboro 27312

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:55:51 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: Goat's Milk & Poison Ivy

I am SUPER allergic to poison ivy, poison oak and all those other "poison" plants.  So allergic that someone burning brush with poison in it and the smoke gets on me - I've got it.  I think this latest "bout" with it was caused by my dog going outside, getting in it, then coming back in and giving it to me.   I don't know how else I could have gotten it this time.  

Anyway - I saw online some articles about drinking goat's milk as a way of building up the immune system.  Apparently the theory is that the goats eat poison ivy/oak/sumac and somehow it is coveyed into their milk and if humans drink the goat's milk it builds up their immunity.

Does anyone out there know about this theory - if it works or if it is just a waste of time and effort.  I'm ready to try just about anything!!!  

Linda Allred Cooper

--------------------  14  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:38:31 -0400
From: "Tommy and Cindy Edwards "
Subject: The PAF Gallery welcomes Julia Kennedy Exhibit

The new PAF Gallery located in the NC Arts Incubator is pleased to announce
the opening reception for Julia Kennedy's new show entitled "Color Shift" on
Friday, June 19 from 6-9pm. Everyone is welcome to attend this free event in
downtown Siler City at 223D North Chatham Avenue. Third Friday events also
include music from Bill and Libby Hicks in the NC Arts Incubator Courtyard
and a new show "Fruit of the Vine" at the NC Arts Incubator Gallery.  

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:57:38 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: "Indian Giver"

I never use the term and I can see where it is offensive.  Oddly, however, I always used to think (in my younger days until I heard differently) that the term referred to Americans giving treaty rights and land to Indians and then taking them back.  


--------------------  16  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:30:42 -0500
From: "Joe Smith"
Subject: Staining recommendations?

We are constructing a barn with T111 siding and will need to have it
stained when complete.  I'm looking for recommendations for
individuals/companies that might do such work.  Thank you.


--------------------  17  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:53:30 -0500
From: "Joe Smith"
Subject: Stump Grinder Rental?

Does anyone know of a local company that rents stump grinders, or a good
recommendation for a local company that will grind stumps?  Thank you.

--------------------  18  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:55:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Tori M."
Subject: Rob, the Door Doctor gets an A

The Door Doctor, Rob Sprenger, came out and reattached part of my threshold (spelling?) and also did some sort of magic on my front door.  I no longer have to slam it shut.

Thanks to the Chatlist, yet again, for being a local resource for all things local!


If you use itunes to buy music, please consider going through Goodshop. com first and entering Virginia Cross Elementary School at the charity.

We need funding!
Our id number is 868065
Thanks, and spread the word.

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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:31:30 -0400
From: "Pat Johnson"
Subject: =?us-ascii?Q?_=22Shaggin'_Into_Summer_with_CASA=2C_ENO_and_BASS=22?=

Please come out for "Shaggin' Into Summer with CASA, ENO and BASS".  This
special Chatham Area Shag Club event is sponsored by CASA and their sister
clubs Eno Beach Shag Club and BassLake Area Shag Society.  It is set for
Sunday, June 21 at the General Store Cafe on the circle in beautiful
downtown Pittsboro, NC.  The Castaways  will
play from 5:00 - 9:00. Neal "Soul Dog" Furr will entertain also.   Tickets
are $10:00 in advance $12:00 at the door and the price includes hotdog,
hamburger cookout with all the fixings.  Advanced tickets may be purchased
at the General Store.

This a good deal.  You get The Castaways, "Soul Dog" and a cookout for 10
I know it is Father's Day but what better present for your DAD? Plus, it is
not until 5 o'clock so all the "necktie giving" should be over.  We will do
a special Father's dance for all the Dads out there.

Patricia L. Johnson, President
Chatham Area Shag Association
P.O.Box  1498
Pittsboro, NC 27312

--------------------  20  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:56:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lynn Hayes
Subject: need help with mixing radio intro

Hey y'all,

Does anyone have a music studio of some kind that could help me mix an intro to an internet radio show?  I am a little boggled by all of the software requirements.  The intro is less than a minute and then maybe there will be a snippet for the end as well.


--------------------  21  --------------------
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lynn Hayes
Subject: Driving on 15-501

In response to Pat, I want to mention that for those of us who live off 15-501, the left line is not a passing lane but a turn lane for us to gain access to our roads.  15-501 is not like an interstate where the slower traffic must keep right - sometimes we are turning.  So please don't ride our bumpers when we're trying to turn off onto our roads without getting killed!!


In response to "reckless driving" on 15-501, I also get very frustrated with people who are "meandering" at 40-45 mph in the passing lane while on the phone, talking or singing.  Pay attention!  Dive in the RIGHT lane!!  People need to get back to basics.  Drive on the right side and pass on the left.  Don't sit in the left lane forcing other drivers to pass you on the right because you are not following the law, paying attention or just don't care.  That is often what is causing "reckless driving" in my opinion.  And if you happen to be one doing the "speed limit" but are in the left lane and someone is on your tail..  move over.  Its simple.  Don't be the road guardian.  If they are speeding they will eventually get caught down the road by the many unmarked cars.  If they want to move past you and you won't move over, then yes they will pass on the inside.  Don't be the road police, as I tell my kids.  Stay right unless passing!Pat

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