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Chatham Chatlist #3388 PDF Print E-mail
Written by Gene Galin   
Monday, 06 April 2009

This digest contains the following messages:

  1. Census Takers  
         by: kimberli matin <>
  2. looking for local landscaper  
         by: Susan Stockdale <>
  3. dog obedience school  
         by: Susan Stockdale <>
  4. NEWS: Kay Spoon of Pittsboro receives black belt  
         by: South Eastern Karate News <>
  5. Music this Week at the General Store CAfe  
         by: joyce <>
  6. One more suggestion on moles and voles  
         by: Maurice East <>
  7. Customer Service is hard to find in PBO  
         by:  <>
  8. Perry Harrison PTSA presents Run for the Mariners 5K and 1 mile fun run  
         by: Newt and Karen Heilman <>
  9. Computer Problems  
         by: Lisa Thomas <>
  10. Natives, newcomers spar over county - Story about Chatlist in Herald  
         by: Gene Gallin <>
  11. Pilgrimage for Justice - Chatham County  
         by:  <>
  12. Holy Week events at Pittsboro United Methodist Church  
         by: Angela Crisp-Sears <>
  13. Local Twitter posts about UNC Tar Heels  

--------------------  1  --------------------
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 09:00:03 -0400
From: kimberli matin <>
Subject: Census Takers

Just a reminder that you might see people with strange little computers in their hands standing on your front stoop within the next few weeks.  They will be wearing an official badge.  These are Census takers that are only here to update address and map information.  They might also be driving slow in front of you while they check for the house number they are driving by.  Please attempt to be nice to them.  Thanks!

Kimberli Matin

--------------------  2  --------------------
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:32:56 -0400
From: "Susan Stockdale" <>
Subject: looking for local landscaper

The yard of my new house was ignored during the drought two years ago and is
mostly weeds.  I am looking for a local landscaper that can turn the yard
back into a yard and as need be, fertilized and mowed.  I would also need a
little advice about hardy deer resistant plants to put in around the
perimeter of the house. Any recommendations?


--------------------  3  --------------------
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 12:33:42 -0400
From: "Susan Stockdale" <>
Subject: dog obedience school

Is there a local dog obedience school around Pittsboro?


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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 09:00:14 -0400
From: South Eastern Karate News <>
Subject: NEWS: Kay Spoon of Pittsboro receives black belt

SILER CITY - Kay Spoon of Pittsboro was awarded a black belt and the
rank of First Dan on Mar. 21, when South Eastern Karate Association
held its quarterly promotion exams.

The belt and certificate were presented by Master Instructor Peggy
Jolly, a seventh-degree black belt, or Seventh Dan, just three months
after the school awarded eight other black belt ranks.

When Spoon first walked into the karate school, she never intended to
take classes. Still affected by a dangerous episode earlier in life,
she merely wanted her daughter, Rachel, to have the tools to deal
with a similar situation, if it ever arose.

"When I was working my way through college, a gentleman came in our
office late one evening and had a psychotic break," she recalls. "He
threatened my director and tried to get out of the building with me.
It was a traumatic experience, and it really stayed with me.

"As Rachel started getting up in age, I thought about that and wanted
to help her keep a calm head and develop the mental and physical
discipline to deal with something like that."

While the daughter trained, Mom watched. Then, Master Instructor
Jolly began urging Mom - "cajoling" is how Spoon puts it - to join
Rachel in class. The teacher was so relentless that Spoon decided to
put a uniform on, if only to prove that there was no way a woman in
her late 40s could do martial arts.

The only problem: Spoon was wrong. The mother did learn, and after
nearly four years of work, the 49-year-old received her black belt.
In a particularly meaningful moment after the promotion ceremony
ended, black belt Rachel Spoon tied on her mother's black belt for
the first time.

Master Jolly says there many reasons why a lot of parents have
trained with their children during the 27 years she's taught martial
arts in Siler City. It's one of the few activities the family can do
together. It opens up important lines of communication, especially
during teenage years. And the experience is almost always good for
the entire family.

"You might not realize it, but children take a great deal of pride in
their parents, particularly when they watch Mom or Dad struggle to
learn new skills and achieve their goals," Master Jolly explains.
"And that gives children a stronger motivation that goes beyond the
martial arts. It's an example that shows children it's important to
keep working to get better at whatever they do and never give up."

The Spoons continue to train. As black belts, they're honing
techniques they've already practiced and are learning how to use them
in difficult situations. Mom says she sees the black belt as a
beginning, not the ultimate goal, because there's so much more to

She's done pretty well already. "Training has probably helped me more
than you have room to print," she says. "The big thing is confidence,
the way I carry myself and the way I approach the tragedy and
hardships that come in life.

"There's more strength there - not just a physical strength, but
confidence and a mental strength to deal with things I might not have
been able to deal with before."

South Eastern Karate Association has taught Korean martial arts in
central North Carolina since 1982 to men and women from 5-years-old
to well past retirement age. Schools in Siler City and Liberty
feature instruction in self-defense, and emphasize confidence,
physical fitness and self-discipline.

--------------------  5  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:34:32 -0400
From: "joyce" <>
Subject: Music this Week at the General Store CAfe

This week at the General Store Café
We will be featuring Shag Dancing Monday, April 6, 6:30 pm-10 pm, free
lesson at 6:30, Jazz with JAAFAR on Thursday, April 9, 7-9 pm, 2nd Stage
on Friday, April 10, 8:30-11:00 pm, and Armand & Bluesology on Saturday,
April 11, 8:30-11:00 pm. Enjoy our Easter Sunday Brunch from 9 to 3 pm
enjoy the sounds of Victor Murillo from 11-2 pm.  Make your reservations
now! Don't forget to check our website for additional details at

--------------------  6  --------------------
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:27:58 -0400
From: Maurice East <>
Subject: One more suggestion on moles and voles

FWIW, I had a stone patio that was heavily infested with moles.  What finally worked best for me was pouring a bleach solution on the tunnels that they constructed between the stones.   They were gone in about a month!     Of course, if you have to worry about a lawn or plantings, bleach is obviously not a good solution!    

--------------------  7  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 15:09:02 EDT
Subject: Customer Service is hard to find in PBO

This weekend I had 2 examples of terrible customer service in PBO, and  if
they weren't offset by other examples of really good service, I'd have said  
customer service is DEAD in Pittsboro. Yesterday, while running my normal  
Saturday chore run to town, we stopped at Subway (falling victim to the ever  
present "$5 Foot-long" ads). After waiting in line while 3 teenagers who seemed  
completely untrained made sandwiches to order for  the people in line,  I finally
got my turn. Upon hitting the cash register part of the journey, the  young
man looked at me like I was Beelzebub himself when I presented my debit  card.
Now, I know they take debit (and credit) cards, because it says so on  their
front door, and I've done so many times in the past. The conversation went  
like this:
Boy: "He's got a debit card, what do I do?"
Girl: "I don't think its working..."
Boy: "So what do I do?"
Girl: (silence)
Boy: "Do I just give it to him?"
Girl (silence)
Boy to older girl: "Is the machine working?"
Older girl "no - she told me to unplug it and now it doesn't work"
Boy:"Can I use the one in the back?"
Older Girl: "that's not working either."
Boy: "Should I just give it to him?"
Older Girl: "The food? NO!"
Boy: "Then what should I do?"
Boy to me (obviously just having had an idea): "Can you go get some cash  

Now, my toasted sub was by now getting soggy, and if I were to leave the  
store "to get cash somewhere" you can bet your butt I would spend it  elsewhere.  
Not wanting to totally lose the 20 minutes  I now had  invested in getting my
lunch to within 12" of my hand, I suggested "Maybe the  manager can get this
fixed... who is the manager?"

Boy: "I dunno"
Older girl "She's not here today"
Me "So who is in charge?"
Older girl "I guess I'm  the closest there is, since I've been here  the
longest. Suzy Something (I cannot remember the name she actually said)  became
manager yesterday under some weird circumstances, but she's off  today"
Me: "So no one is in charge?"
Girl "That's Subway for you!"

By this time my wife, digging through her purse, finds her checkbook. "Will  
you take a check?"
Problem solved... and lesson learned. No more Subway.

Then today, same plaza, Food Lion. Buying a few supplies, and some soft  
drinks. Pepsi products are on sale, buy 4-12 packs for $11 and get 2  2-liters
free. Good deal. Big end cap display with Pepsi products in 12 packs  and 2-liter
bottles. I pick up 4 12 packs of Diet Pepsi and Pepsi Max, and  notice there
is a list of exceptions to which 2-liters can be had for free.  Looking over
the list of exceptions, I see that the Tropicana (a Pepsi product)  sodas
displayed on that end-cap are not on the exception list, thus, can be had  for
free. I pick up one, and a Sierra Mist, also eligible for "free-dom!".

Of course, when I get to the checkout, the Sierra Mist goes through for  
free, the other one doesn't. No one knows what to do. Vicky, the "Customer  
Service Manager" (a bit of irony in THAT title!) comes over, grabs up the  Tropicana
as if I am trying to steal it, and clutches it in her arms. "This  isn't
included in the free offer". I ask her why its not, as it is clearly NOT  on the
list of products not included. I show her the list in the ad, and it  matches
the list on the sign on the display where the darn Tropicana is  displayed,
right with the 4/$11
Pepsi products. She marches the soda off to the office, and 5 minutes later  
comes back, gives the clerk the bottle, refuses to even look at me, and says
"He  can have this one, but no more." and starts to walk away. I said "Excuse
me,  Vicky... you should either fix the sign or include the Tropicana
products..."  and she just gives me a nasty look, and rudely just walks away, like I
created  the problem, not them!

So this is the level of customer service we can expect from the "Customer  
Service Manager" at Food Lion. And you wonder why people are willing to drive to
 Sanford, or Cole Park to do their shopping?

The high point of the weekend in terms of customer service (and the  examples
both the aforementioned businesses should try to emulate) is our  weekly
visit to the feed store. Dave and Christine at Pittsboro Feed know how to  keep
customers happy, as do Dallas and Jason over at Southern States. While we  now
tend to do a lot more business at one place than we do at the other, mainly  
due to product mix, both shopkeepers know that if you lose your customers,  
you'll soon lose your business. That is something PBO Food Lion and PBO Subway  
ought to take heed of.

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--------------------  8  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:05:17 -0400
From: "Newt and Karen Heilman" <>
Subject: Perry Harrison PTSA presents Run for the Mariners 5K and 1 mile fun run

Perry Harrison School PTSA presents our biannual



Saturday, May 2 at 10 AM

Register online at

The advance fee for adults is $25 and $10 for students. Participants receive
a t-shirt and are eligible to win prizes. You can show up on race day but
will pay an additional $5 late registration fee.  

The race takes place in the back parking lot behind the school and is a loop
down River Forest Rd., thru the new Harrison Pond subdivision, and back to
the school.

Not into the 5K? A one mile fun run will begin at 11 AM and take place
around the soccer field.

Don't want to run or walk? Volunteers are needed to help with the event.
Contact Karen Heilman at to volunteer or with

Hope to see you out there getting some exercise and supporting our school!

--------------------  9  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:09:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lisa Thomas <>
Subject: Computer Problems

Need help with a CD ROM not working on my HP computer ... any suggestions? 

--------------------  10  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 17:52:07 -0400
From: Gene Gallin <>
Subject: Natives, newcomers spar over county - Story about Chatlist in Herald
        Sun newspaper

Natives, newcomers spar over county

Native vs. newcomer. Local vs. outsider.

In Chatham County, there's a group of people who have been writing
online on the Chatham Chatlist who have been going round and round for
nearly a month about whether natives have a special claim to the
county, if newcomers are ruining it and who has the right to call it

The Chatlist is a widely used and viewed electronic bulletin board
that is a first-alert to the pulse of the community. It carries
inquiries for everything from handyman services to dog training
classes, from fundraising announcements to government notices and, on
occasions such as the most recent spate of filings, lively discussions
of cultural and social differences of opinion.

Maybe it started when a person with the online moniker chadrodeo wrote
on March 11. "From a life time? chathamite I have a suggestion.Take
all the Chapel Hill and Carrboro liberals out?of Chatham and turn it
back 2 a nice town.If u want it 2 be like Chapel Hill Carrboro Or
Cary? Go back home!Leave our town".This is my town"as?Montgomery
Gentry ?says."

Not the greatest typist, but Chadrodeo got his point across and raised
the hackles of other writers who responded with opposing viewpoints,
explanations of how natives feel about newcomers, newcomers'
explanations about how they feel about natives, a few insults thrown
back and forth and a couple of pleas of "can't we all just get along?"

Read the entire story at

--------------------  11  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:42:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Pilgrimage for Justice - Chatham County

Pilgrimage for Justice and Peace

The Carolina Interfaith Task Force on Central America (CITCA), along with
33 organizations and churches, is cosponsoring a 100-mile walk through
Charlotte, Asheville, Winston-Salem, Moncure, Pittsboro, Burlington,
Graham, Greensboro and Raleigh. Demands include:
Moratorium on Raids and Deportations, Just and Humane Immigration Reform,
Fair Trade Policies and Worker Justice.

"In the past few months, in Charlotte and across NC, we have witnessed the
rise of immigration raids, the passing of local anti-immigrant ordinances
and an onslaught of messages of hate targeting Latinos. This has created a
state of fear and uncertainty for all. It is urgent that we develop a sane
immigration policy at both the state and national levels to allow people
to migrate in a legal and safe manner, and enable them to work in this
state and across the country,” said CITCA Director Gail Phares, who
recently visited Mexico to investigate the reasons that thousands of
people from that area are migrating to North Carolina.

The Pilgrimage will be visiting Chatham County on Tuesday, April 7th, and
Wednesday, April 8th. For a schedule of the Chatham County portion, please
visit the following link:

You can also visit the CITCA website for more information, at:

We hope you can join us for any portion of the Pilgrimage!

--------------------  12  --------------------
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 22:20:05 -0400
From: Angela Crisp-Sears <>
Subject: Holy Week events at Pittsboro United Methodist Church

The Community is invited to participate in the following Holy Week events at
Pittsboro United Methodist Church.

Labyrinth:  A Holy Week Walking Prayer
Week Long, Fellowship Hall
By walking the labyrinth we can set our minds and our hearts on an allegorical
pilgrimage to the New Jerusalem.

Monday, April 6, 2-4pm and 6-9pm
Tuesday, April 7, 10-noon and 6-9pm
Wednesday, April 8, 2-4pm
Thursday, April 9, 10-1pm, 2-4pm
Friday, April 10, 2-4pm, 6-9pm
Saturday, April 11, 10-1pm

Services of Prayer
Monday, April 6 - Wednesday April 8, Noon to 12:30pm, Sanctuary
Each day we will engage in a different prayer experience as a means of
remembering and connecting with God's Holy Word.

Monday, John 12:1-11, guided prayer
Tuesday, John 12:20-36, lectio divina
Wednesday, John 13:21-32, breath prayer

Holy Thursday Concert with The Methodist University Chorale
Thursday, April 9, 7pm, Sanctuary
Experience prayer through music with Methodist University's award winning
Chorale.  This service will conclude with Holy Communion and the stripping of
the alter; a love offering for the Chorale will be received.

Good Friday Service
Friday, April 10, noon
St. Bartholomew's Episcopal Church, 204 West Salisbury Street
Please share with us this Good Friday Service with the Passion Narrative,
homily and the Solemn Collects.

Easter Sunrise Service
Sunday, April 11, 6:30am
Pittsboro Presbyterian Church, 95 East Road
Pittsboro UMC, St. Bartholomew's Episcopal Church and Pittsboro Presbyterian
Church invite you to join them for this joint sunrise service as we celebrate
our risen Savior, Jesus Christ.

Easter Services
Sunday, April 11, 8:45am and 11am, Sanctuary
Join PUMC in this celebration of Easter and the Good News of the Resurrection
of Jesus Christ!

Unless otherwise noted, all events are held at Pittsboro United Methodist
Church, 71 West Street, Pittsboro.  For additional information, please
contact the church at 542-2330

--------------------  13  --------------------
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 02:12:14 -0400
From: "Gene" <>
Subject: Local Twitter posts about UNC Tar Heels

You can find local Twitter posts (within 30 miles of Pittsboro) about UNC Tar Heels at

I will keep it running through Tuesday morning.

If you are a Chatham County twitter, feel free to twit away before, during and after the NCAA Basketball Championship game.

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