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Written by Gene Galin   
Tuesday, 31 July 2007
This digest contains the following messages:

1. wallpaper removal and painting
2. Chatham County VBS Aug 6-10
3. Thursday Night Theater Indoors at CCCC
4. carpool interest?
5. Piedmont Biofuels
6. Strays in Chatham
7. Some folks like malls.....
8. Assistance for Elderly
9. new spinning class offered in Historic Downtown Siler city
10. Vegetable Fuels workshop this weekend!
11. Steve's response to the CR Article
12. Thank you, Reiki therapists
13. Fuel Up
14. " Cheery Mall"
15. Thrift Shop Announcement --------------------  1  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:16:26 -0400
From: "Amy Bulbrook" <>
Subject: wallpaper removal and painting


Does anyone have any recommendations for someone that can strip wallpaper
and paint?


--------------------  2  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 06:49:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donna Moss <>
Subject: ** Chatham County VBS Aug 6-10

Three Local Churches Hold August 6-10 Program for

Evergreen United Methodist Church, Lystra Baptist
Church, and Chatham Community Church are pleased to
announce they will be co-hosting Vacation Bible School
for children from age three to Sixth Grade. “Soaring
to New Heights with God” will be held from August 6th
to August 10th at Evergreen United Methodist Church,
which is located on Route 15-501 near Chatham Commons
Shopping Center. This exciting program will begin at
6:30 p.m. and end promptly at 8:30 p.m.

Vacation Bible School is open to the community and
combines the world of hot-air ballooning with the
discovery of how to reach new heights with God. Each
lesson will be supported with Bible stories,
fun-filled activities, songs, crafts, and games.
Healthy snacks will be provided, too.

Children and their families are also invited to attend
a special “Lift Off” on Sunday, August 5th, from 1:00
p.m. to 3:00 p.m. at Evergreen United Methodist
Church. Participants can register at this “Lift Off,”
learn more about the week’s program, and have fun
while enjoying free hot dogs, a “moon walk,” and

Registration forms are available on the Evergreen
United Methodist Church web site at

For more information on this upcoming Vacation Bible
School program, please contact either Miriam Bryant at
919.542.1181 or Stephanie Griffin at 919.545.2849.
Volunteers are also welcome!

--------------------  3  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:16:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Terry" <>
Subject: ** Thursday Night Theater Indoors at CCCC

This Thursday, August 2: Ice Worlds and Shallow Seas

Next Thursday, August 9: Great Plains and Jungles

Thursday, August 16: Fresh Water and Seasonal Forests

Thursday, August 23: Caves and Planet Earth: The Future

More than five years in the making, award-winning actress and
conservationist Sigourney Weaver narrates this amazing look at animal
behaviors, startling views of locations captured by cameras for the first
time and unprecedented high-definition production techniques.

Admission is free and popcorn, soda and candy is just a buck!

--------------------  4  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:37:38 -0400
From: mattie marrs <>
Subject: ** carpool interest?

Anyone interested in car pool from Fearrington Village to UNC?  Respond to

--------------------  5  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:03:10 -0400
From: "Dan Marley" <>
Subject: ** Piedmont Biofuels

In response to Chris describing the Piedmont Biofuels plant and its attractive appearance -
"It definitely does not conform to the stereotype of the drab industrial
park.  In fact, it's a warm, inviting, colorful place using innovative
construction techniques, with a lot of growing plants, sculpture & other
art, and a soccer field."

That's what you can build when you get grants from our deep pocketed government.

Dan Marley

--------------------  6  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:23:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: laura <>
Subject: Strays in Chatham

They are way too many stray cats and dogs in Chatham County for these reasons:

There are no state spay/neuter laws which mandate people fix their animals

Chatham County Animal Control has for years ignored the problem

Many vets refuse to fix stray animals without charging full price

Most people don't see it or they ignore the problem

--------------------  7  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:37:35 -0500
From: <>
Subject: Some folks like malls.....


I don't think either your post nor mine was about the facts.  You stated what you like to do, want for
you family and I did the same.  Shopping centers do not make me cheery.

As far as my comment about the type of people moving to Chatham, I'll stand by it even it YOU
personally aren't one of's the "type" of person, who wants their cake and to eat it too. Some
come to get away from this sort for mass development then complain when they have to drive
somewhere to shop. Can't be both ways.  I'd like some nice shops and a new restaurants but they
don't have to come in the form of a MEGA MALL.  

It isn't about who's been here longer, I didn't say anything about who's been here's about
who is a better steward of the land. And no, I don't particularly care for folks from out of state or out of
anywhere who come here and make demands on the county that can't be met.   They leave where
ever they were because the taxes were too high, the traffic too bad and the schools overcrowded and
come here and want the same ammenities they had whereever they were.
If you don't fit that stereotype then don't be offended.  You're the other type that thinks that malls and
shopping are a good, wholesome place to live and work.  Takes all kinds.


--------------------  8  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 07:37:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louis Edwards <>
Subject: ** Assistance for Elderly

Can anyone suggest a place that provides care for seniors in Pittsboro? My aunt resides at the local independent community and is requiring more assistance then they offer. She does not need a nursing home, just help with taking her medicine and with some help getting a bath and dressed her doctor says. I already went by Pittsboro Christian Home, but they don't accept people that weren't members of their church.
  Thank you
  Louis Edwards

--------------------  9  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:08:58 -0400
From: "Sue szary" <>
Subject: ** new spinning class offered in Historic Downtown Siler city

Now accepting registration for Fall spinning classes
Against His Will Gallery & Studio
128 N. Chatham Ave.
Siler City, NC 27344


Nancy Shroyer, instructor

Sundays, September 16 & 30 1-4:00p.m.

Small personalized classes are offered and will fill quickly.  Register

Join us in this hands-on adventure.

Nancy will guide you through the mystery of the spinning wheel

in two, three-hour comprehensive classes.

In class one, participants will learn about styles of spinning wheels and
their operation.  Students will prepare samples of worsted and woolen yarns
and learn about yarn measurement and project record keeping.

Each student will borrow a spinning wheel and be assigned homework: two
bobbins of yarn samples to be completed for class session two.

In class two, we will learn how to ply yarn, use a Lazy Kate and learn the
basics of the drop spindle and Andean spinning.  Fiber preparation, and the
finishing of a well-balanced skein will conclude the lesson.

The $125.00 class fee includes:

   - Two, three-hour class sessions (what a treat to be able to sit at
   the knee of an instructor who is extremely knowledgeable AND patient!)
   - Project cards and fiber for spinning (yours to keep)
   - Spinning wheel rental for two weeks: You may bring your own *
   contemporary** wheel if you prefer and the $25.00 wheel rental fee
   will be deducted from the class price (*sorry, we won't have time to coax
   Grandma's wheel into service.  You know, the one you've been dusting
   around for years)
   - Instruction, camaraderie and light refreshments in a hands-on,
   non-virtual environment

Please email to request a registration packet (space is limited, so register
Note: The shop will be closed Aug. 5-11th, but I will reply to your request
upon my return!!!!

--------------------  10  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:17:39 -0400
From: Rachel Burton <>
Subject: ** Vegetable Fuels workshop this weekend!

The Biofuels program at Central Carolina Community College and  
Piedmont Biofuels are

co-hosting an Elsbett Vegetable Oil installation workshop scheduled  
on Sunday, August 5th from 10am - 5pm.

in Pittsboro, North Carolina, U.S.

The workshop will be held at Central Carolina Community College. ( CCCC)
on the Pittsboro Campus

The workshop cost for Sunday is $75.00

We will have a number of passenger cars and trucks previously  
converted vehicles on site for demonstration:

To pre-register for the workshop, call 919-542-6495 ext 223.

If you are not familiar with Elsbett vegetable oil conversions
please check out the following links:


Rachel Burton
Piedmont Biofuels

--------------------  11  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:57:21 -0400
From: "Damian C. Munn" <>
Subject: Steve's response to the CR Article

My first response to your opinion would be that the better education comes
in the form of those children being able to learn at a faster rate and
comprehend more of what is being taught to them when they have been properly
nourished; there have been numerous studies proving that malnourished
children are at a disadvantage compared to those that are adequately
nourished in educational environments.

My second response has to do with this comment that you made:

"Maybe some of these hungry children should be shamed into saying "Mom, can
we get some food in this house instead of you getting a tattoo on your neck
of a pit bull?""

We shouldn't ever shame children into ANYTHING about anything!! If their
parents are too proud to ask for these services, the blame lies with them
and the children shouldn't be punished for it. WIC doesn't typically help
out with children once they are over the age of 5 and the income levels
needed to qualify for food stamps are so low that at first glance it looks
like a joke (ie. A family of four would need to make $2167 or less per month
to qualify).

So I guess my response to the schools would be "Good for you!!"  

--------------------  12  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:17:19 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "ktbug" <>
Subject: Thank you, Reiki therapists

I received many responses to my request for Reiki therapists in this area.
I will be calling of rmore information.  

Thank you...........Kay

--------------------  13  --------------------
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2007 01:40:54 +0000
From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?holly?=" <>
Subject: Fuel Up

      I’d like to explain the Fuel Up program being implemented in Chatham County Schools (CCS) this
year.  Last November, while attending the North Carolina School Board Association Conference, I
attended a session led by Dare County Schools.  They discussed their “Food For Thought” program
that was created to feed students over the weekends and holidays.  I felt this was a worthwhile
initiative, so I encouraged the BOE to support the creation of Fuel Up in CCS.

      Food is NOT bought by the CCS Nutrition Department therefore no tax dollars are being used to
buy food.  Food is provided by donations only.  If you are interested in making a donation you may
bring food to Millennium Sports Club at Cole Park Plaza or to the CCS Central Office.  When the
school year begins you will also have the option of donating food items at the following schools:

1. Bonlee
3. Moncure
4. Silk Hope
5. Northwood High School
6. Horton
7. Perry Harrison
8. JS Waters
9. Jordan Matthews High School
10. Bennett

More schools may be added to the list in the near future.  Please visit the following website to learn

     Today I went to the food panty at Merry Oaks Church in Moncure, and was informed that some
families that receive food from the panty also get food stamps.  Unfortunately
$10.00, $20.00, $40.00 etc. in food stamps is not always enough to feed a family for a month, so
additional food is often needed even when government assistance is provided.

     The Food Bank of Central and Eastern NC was able to send 25 backpacks home with 25 students
in CCS via a grant that allowed the program to expand to include Chatham County.  Fuel Up is going
to increase the number of students receiving food on weekends and holidays.  We need 100 full-size
backpacks before September.  If you’d like to donate a backpack you may bring it to The Home Team
at Chatham Downs, or take it by the CCS Central Office.

The following statistics were found at

The Need:
In the 34 counties served by the Food Bank, over 400,000 people are at risk of hunger.*
•    Nearly 30% are children.*
•    18% are elderly.*
•    38% of households at risk of hunger have one or more working adults.*

The Choices:
•    45% of the people at risk have had to choose between food and paying utilities.**
•    34% of the people at risk have had to choose between food and rent/mortgage.**
•    36% of the people at risk have had to choose between food and medicine.**

     I would like to thank everyone who has helped with the program thus far.  It means a great deal
to me to see such tremendous support throughout the county.

Holly G. Duncan
Chatham County Board of Education

> >  Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:58:52 -0400
> >  From: "STEVE  CANDELORI" <>
> >  Subject: Re: Chatham Record Article
> >  
> >    Did anyone read the article in the last C.R. about the nutritional program
> >  being rolled out by our wonderful government schools? They are called "Fuel
> >  Up" and "Food Until Everything Looks Up". These programs send home food on
> >  Friday afternoon for hungry student to eat over the weekend. Packaged in
> >  "non-identifiable" backpacks so that the student doesn't get teased by other
> >  students.
> >    Before anyone accuses me of wanting children to starve, don't bother,
> >  you're wrong. My problem with this is:
> >     1) There are other taxpayer programs to deal with this.(food stamps. WIC,
> >  etc., no teasing included)
> >     2)Providing nutrition is not the job of government schools. If they want
> >  to get a positive nutritional message across then let it start in the
> >  lunchroom, quit serving greasy pizza once a week.
> >     3) This kind of thing distracts from their main purpose: educating, which
> >  seems to be a low priority.
> >      It's also a pathetic attempt to make our sub-par schools seem to be a
> >  significant institution. What will the school system want to provide next?
> >  Clothes, shoes, hygiene supplies, cable TV, money to pay for utilities,
> >  bling?
> >     And to think that they can disguise these back-packs from the other
> >  students to protect the recipients from ridicule? Hog wash! They
> >  underestimate these children and their ability to notice things.It's their
> >  job to know children... talk about being out of touch! Geeze, gimme a break.
> >  Maybe some of these hungry children should be shamed into saying "Mom, can
> >  we get some food in this house instead of you getting a tattoo on your neck
> >  of a pit bull?"
> >     According to the article half of the students attending government
> >  schools in this county qualify for free or reduced lunch. Administrators
> >  could not be happier. I find that number to be skewed. When my son attended
> >  North Chatham we were encourage to get him in a free or reduced program
> >  when, clearly, he wasn't in need. After I refused the help repeatedly, he
> >  was included anyway.
> >     When our school system is in a struggle to provide a basic education, it
> >  finds it necessary to use up scarce resources doing a job it has no business
> >  doing. This program is a farce with the intention to make them appear to
> >  care while using the image of a hungry child as their prostitute. Shame on
> >  you people. You just want to grub every last dime out of the taxpayer and
> >  play on our emotions to guilt us out of our earnings.
> >     There was, by the way, no mention in the article about a better education
> >  offered.
> >  
> >                                             Steve Candelori

--------------------  14  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:14:00 -0400
From: "Miriam  Hanner" <>
Subject: ** " Cheery Mall"


I have been to Crabtree, Northgate, North Hills and other malls and the traffic, numbers of people in a hurry, and loiterers do not make me feel that a mall is "cheery". Even Meadowmont makes me feel overheated because of all of the concrete and pavement. I have worked with the Estil's and they do all in their power to make the work place a welcoming part of the community and a place that supports economics and the Earth. The industry model in that region has started a sustainable trend that I hope other coming businesses will emulate.


--------------------  15  --------------------
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:26:32 -0700
From: Catherine MacAllister <>
Subject: Thrift Shop Announcement

Perry Harrison will be hosting Thrift Shop worknights at the Cole Park store on the following evenings:

*Thursday, August 9, from 6:30 until 8:30

*Wednesday, August 15, from 6:30 until 8:30

These will be Harrison's last two worknights of the summer, so please come out and join us. Hope to see you there!

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1. 13-12-2007 11:36
Hey im new at the chatlist and just letting everyone know that im a young girl trying to start a cake business. any advice would be greatly appreciated. im looking for classes on started a small business and possibly new customers.
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2. 29-11-2007 11:49
okay meg to comment on your post #7, you want a unplaned cary fine then, but for the one 100th time! its not a mall, its a planed multiuse place, and place not a mall. a mall is department stores, theres more to this place, and for you nature crazzies, theres going to be a trail from the place to the lake. so stop complaining and be thankful you dont' have to stay and watch it become cary, because it will if we dont' plan growth. the town needs money, and by saying you don't want pittsboro place your just saying you want a cary, and unplaned over populated and by the way its okay for there to be a market place, but they didn't want a lowes home imp. store, well now look, they are using it. its coming and instead of complainning about it, use that time and energy to open your own shop there, or educate someone on what and why you think its a bad idea, you dont' know the facts, pittsboro needs the money, and it was a plained place, or industral person was going to take it over, so maybe you should thank the developer...
3. 29-11-2007 11:29
if we don't plan anything for pittsboro. it will die and become even more poor than it already is. the pot smoking nature people need to under stand it has nothing to do with the fact that developers don't care about the environment, use your time and energy to actually save something important like the rain forest! pittsboro needs help and a plan, theres nothing charming about this town, but if we fix it up with a plan it won't be over done like cary, it will be the way it should be, small, quiet, and charming, but only a plan will work otherwise people will come in a do with it as they please all over the place and nothing will match or go togther!
4. 24-08-2007 11:53
Mature Experienced Vet Tech 
& Animal caretaker looking for Space to park my 18\' travel trailer (w/ water hose and drop cord hookups) in exchange for animal care or other work. Please contact  
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5. 08-08-2007 06:30
Quiet Living Space
I've just recently moved to Pittsboro in search of a quiet place to live and to be close to nature. Unfortunately, my current living space at Creekside Apartments is being invaded by construction noise from a building site on old Graham Road. As I am a writer, quiet time at home is of great importance to me. I'm wondering if anyone out there in leafy Chatham County has or knows of a small and quiet place to rent or buy for one person. If so, please contact White Owl at 542 - 3422. Thank you.
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6. 06-08-2007 17:10
Quiet Living Space
In regard to the proposed Pittsboro Place development, it should be pointed out that the developer has characterized it as something other than a mall. Then in last Monday night\'s meeting, he went on to point out the North Hills Mall in Raleigh as an example of a \"mixed use\" project just such as what he would bring here.  
Having been a resident of Wake County for nearly 20 years, I was flabbergasted that Jackson could call North Hills a mixed use project. In fact, it\'s just a mall, a big one, too. Yes it has been redesigned in the last couple of years, but it never has been more than a mall, surrounded on three sides by the Beltline, Six Forks, and Lassiter Mill, all of which are multiple lane thoroughfares. There may be a few offices within North Hills Mall, but never was that development planned to integrate living spaces, greenways, and the like. IN fact, the whole area is so congested with auto traffic that pedestrian traffic is plainly in danger.  
I moved to Pittsboro just this spring to affirm my connection with nature and sustainable living principles. I don\'t want Jackson\'s mall or whatever it is, and if North Hills is really the pattern for what he means to install, it\'s too absurd a proposition to merit consideration. It\'s way out of touch with the real need here, with environmental requirements, and with the realities of the market for such a place. Let Raleigh keep these places. Pittsboro exists for another reason. 
M. Temple Richmond 
aka White Owl 
White Owl

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